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	<title>Comments on: Prejudices: Very Much Alive And Kicking</title>
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	<description>The Interests of a Childfree Brit Living in Toronto</description>
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		<title>By: mercurior</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2007/02/26/prejudices-very-much-alive-and-kicking/#comment-1117</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes it is a generalisation, but i have seen childfree and parents,  they have different goals,  the politicians in the uk, they are going on and on about having kids, etc, look at brown when they announcned he had a kid, after he did his policies changed towards a more pro child stance.

i did say generally, i find politicians only want votes,  and since parents vote most often, (young men are not voting, young women are not voting), so the policies will be aimed at the biggest group. now if these parental politicians, have a choice, they will create laws and systems that benefit them as parents,  some create things for the best of everyone, but some, have a bias towards the pro child laws. as it affects them directly.

there are always exceptions, but i still have found its almost accurate, next time look atthe pro family rules, and who introduced them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes it is a generalisation, but i have seen childfree and parents,  they have different goals,  the politicians in the uk, they are going on and on about having kids, etc, look at brown when they announcned he had a kid, after he did his policies changed towards a more pro child stance.</p>
<p>i did say generally, i find politicians only want votes,  and since parents vote most often, (young men are not voting, young women are not voting), so the policies will be aimed at the biggest group. now if these parental politicians, have a choice, they will create laws and systems that benefit them as parents,  some create things for the best of everyone, but some, have a bias towards the pro child laws. as it affects them directly.</p>
<p>there are always exceptions, but i still have found its almost accurate, next time look atthe pro family rules, and who introduced them.</p>
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		<title>By: Britgirl</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2007/02/26/prejudices-very-much-alive-and-kicking/#comment-1113</link>
		<dc:creator>Britgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the clarification D! Even with Mark Vaile being the acting PM, he's still  a senior governmental figure right? And since he has the "governmental podium" as it were, it's still quite galling him trotting out what he did. I'm just amazed that anyone in government can come out with that...even if it is what they believe. But maybe I shouldn't be surprised.

Mercurior - Isn't that rather a generalization?

George W Bush is a father yet he seems to have had no problem sending an ever increasing number of young men to great peril in foreign lands.  

Condolezza Rice works for him, so we have to assume she is  behind his administration's polices or she wouldn't be there. (Yes, I know what she was told in the episode you're referring to). 

I think that  politicians are generally more interested in anything that is going to get them elected  than pushing forward their personal agendas. Particularly when they get to higher levels of office.    
And most people who vote have kids and/or grandkids.

Look on the bright side.  We need a new generation of barristas and burger flippers ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the clarification D! Even with Mark Vaile being the acting PM, he&#8217;s still  a senior governmental figure right? And since he has the &#8220;governmental podium&#8221; as it were, it&#8217;s still quite galling him trotting out what he did. I&#8217;m just amazed that anyone in government can come out with that&#8230;even if it is what they believe. But maybe I shouldn&#8217;t be surprised.</p>
<p>Mercurior - Isn&#8217;t that rather a generalization?</p>
<p>George W Bush is a father yet he seems to have had no problem sending an ever increasing number of young men to great peril in foreign lands.  </p>
<p>Condolezza Rice works for him, so we have to assume she is  behind his administration&#8217;s polices or she wouldn&#8217;t be there. (Yes, I know what she was told in the episode you&#8217;re referring to). </p>
<p>I think that  politicians are generally more interested in anything that is going to get them elected  than pushing forward their personal agendas. Particularly when they get to higher levels of office.<br />
And most people who vote have kids and/or grandkids.</p>
<p>Look on the bright side.  We need a new generation of barristas and burger flippers <img src='http://thebritgirl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: mercurior</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2007/02/26/prejudices-very-much-alive-and-kicking/#comment-1109</link>
		<dc:creator>mercurior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think cf or childless politicians are better than parental politicians, why? well, the cf have no axe to grind, we do whats best for society in general, whereas some politicians with kids focus on how to change the world for the sake of thier kids.  not thinking about other situations.

condi rice was bascially told she wasnt as good a person because she doesnt have kids,  the cf politicians will make the hard choices,  the parental politicians will make the decisions for the sake of the children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think cf or childless politicians are better than parental politicians, why? well, the cf have no axe to grind, we do whats best for society in general, whereas some politicians with kids focus on how to change the world for the sake of thier kids.  not thinking about other situations.</p>
<p>condi rice was bascially told she wasnt as good a person because she doesnt have kids,  the cf politicians will make the hard choices,  the parental politicians will make the decisions for the sake of the children.</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2007/02/26/prejudices-very-much-alive-and-kicking/#comment-1107</link>
		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 07:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to clarify, that was &lt;i&gt;acting&lt;/i&gt; PM Vaile. In Australia the Prime Minister (currently John Howard) isn't technically a constitutional appointment, it's just the person who happens to be the appointed head of the majority lower-house party (i.e. the government). The 'acting' PM is the next-most-senior person in the party who get trotted out to make speeches on the news or whatever whenever the 'real' PM is on holidays/sick/overseas/whatever. Vaile is from the National Party (the country/farmers' party), part of the super-conservative majority coalition.

Kim Beazley was at the time the (conservative, male) head of the opposition; i.e. the largest party that does not currently have a majority in the lower house.

The 'red-head from Ipswitch' is Pauline Hanson, the woman who single-handedly put jingoistic racism back on the mainstream political agenda in her maiden speech to parliament about ten years' ago now.

Julia Gillard, part of Beazley's party (albeit the non-conservative faction therein), is youngish, reasonably popular and female. Like the article says, she made a few minor waves recently with her comments about motherhood and politics.

This was a bit of a storm-in-a-teacup 'scandal' that happened a while ago and got a little bit of coverage. It's kinda tied up in Australian 'voter-factions' like the "doctors' wives" (upper-class, 'socially conscious'; and yes, pundits have occasionally wondered where the 'doctors' husbands' went).

- D, the Australian pol-sci student ^^"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify, that was <i>acting</i> PM Vaile. In Australia the Prime Minister (currently John Howard) isn&#8217;t technically a constitutional appointment, it&#8217;s just the person who happens to be the appointed head of the majority lower-house party (i.e. the government). The &#8216;acting&#8217; PM is the next-most-senior person in the party who get trotted out to make speeches on the news or whatever whenever the &#8216;real&#8217; PM is on holidays/sick/overseas/whatever. Vaile is from the National Party (the country/farmers&#8217; party), part of the super-conservative majority coalition.</p>
<p>Kim Beazley was at the time the (conservative, male) head of the opposition; i.e. the largest party that does not currently have a majority in the lower house.</p>
<p>The &#8216;red-head from Ipswitch&#8217; is Pauline Hanson, the woman who single-handedly put jingoistic racism back on the mainstream political agenda in her maiden speech to parliament about ten years&#8217; ago now.</p>
<p>Julia Gillard, part of Beazley&#8217;s party (albeit the non-conservative faction therein), is youngish, reasonably popular and female. Like the article says, she made a few minor waves recently with her comments about motherhood and politics.</p>
<p>This was a bit of a storm-in-a-teacup &#8217;scandal&#8217; that happened a while ago and got a little bit of coverage. It&#8217;s kinda tied up in Australian &#8216;voter-factions&#8217; like the &#8220;doctors&#8217; wives&#8221; (upper-class, &#8217;socially conscious&#8217;; and yes, pundits have occasionally wondered where the &#8216;doctors&#8217; husbands&#8217; went).</p>
<p>- D, the Australian pol-sci student ^^&#8221;</p>
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