Comments on: When A Dog Eats Its Own Vomit Why Are We Surprised?

By: mercurior

mercurior — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 11:24:06 +0000

from todays telegraph

America prides itself on looking you in the eye and telling it as it is. How ironic, then, that the worst mass shooting in its history was committed by a young man who was so painfully shy that he avoided all eye contact, never spoke to his room-mate Joseph Aust, apparently had an imaginary girlfriend named “Jelly” and put a question mark into the students’ year book instead of his name.

In the land of the verbally incontinent, Cho Sueng-hui was speechless. You can just imagine his kernel of resentment and jealousy being fed by the laughter and banter on campus until it became a festering cancer of hatred.

What is less easy to imagine is how and when these emotions were turned into the minutiae of planning mass murder. For all his twisted and contradictory ramblings, Cho was a meticulous and methodical executioner

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=2WH3FDHXSNXDTQFIQMFCFF4AVCBQYIV0?xml=/news/2007/04/21/wshooter21.xml

By: mercurior

mercurior — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 10:25:41 +0000

i meant he was justified in his own mind, that what he did was right.

i know what its like to be nothing, and no one, where my words are ignored. i am not saying he is right in what he did, but he thinks he did, and so he has become what he was wanted, famous/infamous, we dont like to be ignored, so we have to find a way out of it, if thats me writing on here, or you becoming the best you can be, he found a way, that society says is wrong, but i can see his justification for doing it, but i find it wrong as i have another outlet for those kind of feelings

i used to work in a psychology department, so i can put myself into his place, not a nice place, but in his mind, he was right to do that. a sign of sickness, sign of disease, but to him, murder and death, were a beleif he had to follow. i can see the idea of fame, could have led him to this stage, as most of us has been led at one point a fear of non existence, makes you do things, like get stinking drunk and singing karaoke. its a look at me, cry.

he just did it the wrong way, if you could have directed his soul into another direction. but u can see that in his own mind, due to many and varied, reasons, he was in his own mind justified in killing so many.

as i said i can see why he would think that, i disagree with it, as i mention in my last line. i can see his own personal reason, his own person justification (not the justified because and i agree with him, i have to stress that, i disagree with him and his ideas so strongly, but i can see HOW he would have thought he was right, in his personal justification, not the societal justification) hope i explained myself better.

By: Britgirl

Britgirl — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 04:34:08 +0000

mercurior - he doesn’t have any justification. There is no excuse for what he did. He could have got help if he really wanted to, he chose otherwise. You don’t just go about shooting people because you’re pissed of with your lot in life. His “mental state” is being played up to such an extent that if he’d lived and gone to trial, you just know they’d be pleading insanity. Responsibility?

Virginia has the death penalty, so probably he did everyone a favour by killing himself.

I believe that we should always treat people in a way that leaves them with their dignity. There are many people who treat others as if they are nothing, true. It’s wrong, however I also believe that just because someone says another person is nothing this does not make it true. Otherwise that means we are dependent on what other people think of us to (sadly this is the case for many people - but that is no life at all). What matters is what we think of ourselves… that’s the only thing we are responsible for. And what we really think of ourselves will be mirrored in how we treat others.

Chris and Jan - it seems decades since there has been real journalism. It seems most news is only interested in the latest “nipple-slip” headline because that sells them more papers. I don’t watch TV and can’t remember the last time I bought a paper. Like Chris, I find that RSS does make it so easy to eliminate the sensational from the pertinent. Thanks for that reminder chris

By: Jan

Jan — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 01:01:19 +0000

I agree with chris. I don’t read newspapers anymore, and catch very little news. I got frustrated when I tuned in to see real news and found coverage of anna-nicole and the whole “who’s the daddy?” issue. Seems like the press has forgotten about the meaning of journalism.

By: Chris W.

Chris W. — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:26:44 +0000

It’s exactly why I don’t watch much TV or read the paper. RSS feeds for CNN and ABC.com help me weed out the sensational from the pertinent. Before this latest tragedy, I got sick of seeing Anna Nicole’s name all over the place! It seems, even in death (sadly; I don’t wish it on anyone), she gave new meaning to the term “media whore”.

By: mercurior

mercurior — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 08:48:55 +0000

i would add grief also sells papers, look at the bulger, look at all the candleight vigils, thousands of people, some possible have never met anyone from there.

the marc lepine shooting, the womens groups have or had a take back the night walk. (can you guess who are killed more due to crimes MEN) look at hillsborough, every year they put it out there, until you actually get sick and tired.

sending letters (or now dvd’s videos) to the press is not a new thing, in 1888, in london, jack the ripper allegedly sent one letter to the press, (and one via lusk). zodiac killer, BTK, these people are insignificant to the world when alive, they may be treated like dirt, they may actually have a true grievance, but there are never listened too, they are nothing and no one.

this is their chance to become someone, someone who will be listened too. and its not in just these cases, you have the shooter of andy warhol, and her S.C.U.M manifesto. one single shooter, she was nothing and no one, but she is now famous/infamous.