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	<title>Comments on: Childfree Raspberries - Having Kids No Longer Key To A Successful Marriage</title>
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		<title>By: og217</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2007/07/04/childfree-raspberries-having-kids-no-longer-key-to-a-successful-marriage/#comment-14224</link>
		<dc:creator>og217</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just about every marriage survey recently conducted shows that children are the Jack Kevorkians of happy marriages.  Loss of time, sex, money, intimacy, privacy, figure, and sleep will do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just about every marriage survey recently conducted shows that children are the Jack Kevorkians of happy marriages.  Loss of time, sex, money, intimacy, privacy, figure, and sleep will do that.</p>
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		<title>By: Explosive Bombchelle</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2007/07/04/childfree-raspberries-having-kids-no-longer-key-to-a-successful-marriage/#comment-6880</link>
		<dc:creator>Explosive Bombchelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://blondebombchelle.blogspot.com/2007/07/researchers-cook-up-recipe-for-happy.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Researchers Cook Up Recipe for a Happy Marriage&lt;/a&gt;

Upon further reading of the statistics, it is amazing how no one has jumped on the sheer discrepancies between surveys, statistics and the right-winged reports on the results. I wrote the above with my opinions on the matter.</description>
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<p>Upon further reading of the statistics, it is amazing how no one has jumped on the sheer discrepancies between surveys, statistics and the right-winged reports on the results. I wrote the above with my opinions on the matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2007/07/04/childfree-raspberries-having-kids-no-longer-key-to-a-successful-marriage/#comment-6459</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 17:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let us not also forget that Ms. Dafoe is part of the National Marriage Project at Rutgers, which also gives us the drivel of Prof. David Popenoe on a regular basis.  This was their commentary on a recent Pew Research poll which seems to have all the pro-natalists' nickers in a twist.  Here is some more related "news" that I endured on the radio this morning.  In fact, I don't think a month goes by that either Dafoe or Popenoe aren't on the radio whining and moaning about how terrible it is that some people view parenthood as a choice.

http://www.nj1015.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=7219&#38;z=0

New Study Shows Jersey Married Couples Are Less Interested In Having Kids Than They Used To Be
Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - Millennium Radio New Jersey
David Matthau
 
Back in the good old days, one of the main reasons to get married was to have kids and raise a family… but that was then and this is now.

A new Pew Research survey finds less than a third of households currently have children, and the number is expected to drop to 25 percent in the next few years - so what's going on?

Professor David Popenoe, the Co-Director of the National Marriage Project at Rutgers University, says "people less and less think of marriage as being a necessary institution for children - you can raise children in co-habiting relationships, you can raise them in single parent families."

He says "while many of these alternative arrangements are successful, statistically they are not - they are far less successful than the old fashioned married couple raising their own two kids."

The professor adds the trend represents "the growing individualism of modern times and modern culture- of self-centeredness, if you will- we're much more concerned with our own interests and self-fulfillment than we ever were in the past."

He says the bottom line result of all this is that "marriage weakens, and I believe that children are hurt by this trend."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us not also forget that Ms. Dafoe is part of the National Marriage Project at Rutgers, which also gives us the drivel of Prof. David Popenoe on a regular basis.  This was their commentary on a recent Pew Research poll which seems to have all the pro-natalists&#8217; nickers in a twist.  Here is some more related &#8220;news&#8221; that I endured on the radio this morning.  In fact, I don&#8217;t think a month goes by that either Dafoe or Popenoe aren&#8217;t on the radio whining and moaning about how terrible it is that some people view parenthood as a choice.</p>
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<p>New Study Shows Jersey Married Couples Are Less Interested In Having Kids Than They Used To Be<br />
Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - Millennium Radio New Jersey<br />
David Matthau</p>
<p>Back in the good old days, one of the main reasons to get married was to have kids and raise a family… but that was then and this is now.</p>
<p>A new Pew Research survey finds less than a third of households currently have children, and the number is expected to drop to 25 percent in the next few years - so what&#8217;s going on?</p>
<p>Professor David Popenoe, the Co-Director of the National Marriage Project at Rutgers University, says &#8220;people less and less think of marriage as being a necessary institution for children - you can raise children in co-habiting relationships, you can raise them in single parent families.&#8221;</p>
<p>He says &#8220;while many of these alternative arrangements are successful, statistically they are not - they are far less successful than the old fashioned married couple raising their own two kids.&#8221;</p>
<p>The professor adds the trend represents &#8220;the growing individualism of modern times and modern culture- of self-centeredness, if you will- we&#8217;re much more concerned with our own interests and self-fulfillment than we ever were in the past.&#8221;</p>
<p>He says the bottom line result of all this is that &#8220;marriage weakens, and I believe that children are hurt by this trend.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Britgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Britgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 22:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mel: Yes.&lt;br /&gt;
I suppose long, relaxing bubble baths with a book and a glass of wine counts as X-rated as well. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hang on a minute...I suppose taking off on a trip at a moment's notice, just because you feel like it is also an  X-rated fantasy too.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mel: Yes.<br />
I suppose long, relaxing bubble baths with a book and a glass of wine counts as X-rated as well. </p>
<p>Hang on a minute&#8230;I suppose taking off on a trip at a moment&#8217;s notice, just because you feel like it is also an  X-rated fantasy too.</p>
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		<title>By: Mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 18:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose being financially secure and having career-related aspirations count as X-rated as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose being financially secure and having career-related aspirations count as X-rated as well.</p>
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		<title>By: brightfeather</title>
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		<dc:creator>brightfeather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 04:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Child-rearing values — sacrifice, stability, dependability, maturity — seem stale and musty by comparison.

Unbelievable stuff ... raspberries indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Child-rearing values — sacrifice, stability, dependability, maturity — seem stale and musty by comparison.</p>
<p>Unbelievable stuff &#8230; raspberries indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Britgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Britgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 02:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris W - ROAR!!!  I think she's just jealous.  ;)
Phoena -  She seems confused. Apparently they are mutually exclusive as in good parent = no sexual fantasis, no sex life period. I wonder if she has kids. Bet she does  'Coz  she has something against the "desires" of adults.  Oh and as for the sacrifice... well that's done when they HAVE the kids... after that it's a crap shoot. ;)
Shelley... hmm. Now there's a point. I suppose Ms Dafoe would consider the "childrearing values" to more than make up for any other... er... qualifications ;). I'd love to have her answer that question though.
Christine - Oooh, yeah. That'll do. I think it would count because it's pleasurable... ;)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris W - ROAR!!!  I think she&#8217;s just jealous.  <img src='http://thebritgirl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Phoena -  She seems confused. Apparently they are mutually exclusive as in good parent = no sexual fantasis, no sex life period. I wonder if she has kids. Bet she does  &#8216;Coz  she has something against the &#8220;desires&#8221; of adults.  Oh and as for the sacrifice&#8230; well that&#8217;s done when they HAVE the kids&#8230; after that it&#8217;s a crap shoot. <img src='http://thebritgirl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Shelley&#8230; hmm. Now there&#8217;s a point. I suppose Ms Dafoe would consider the &#8220;childrearing values&#8221; to more than make up for any other&#8230; er&#8230; qualifications ;). I&#8217;d love to have her answer that question though.<br />
Christine - Oooh, yeah. That&#8217;ll do. I think it would count because it&#8217;s pleasurable&#8230; <img src='http://thebritgirl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 01:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does shopping with my greater discretionary income count as an “X-rated fantasy? :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does shopping with my greater discretionary income count as an “X-rated fantasy? <img src='http://thebritgirl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Shelley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let's talk about Jenna Jamison - one of the most famous porn stars ever, who I'm sure has inspired many of those x-rated fantasies to which Ms. Dafoe refers.  But since Jenna Jamison has kids, I guess she's a more mature, stable, probably all-around better person than me.  After all, she has "child-rearing values," right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s talk about Jenna Jamison - one of the most famous porn stars ever, who I&#8217;m sure has inspired many of those x-rated fantasies to which Ms. Dafoe refers.  But since Jenna Jamison has kids, I guess she&#8217;s a more mature, stable, probably all-around better person than me.  After all, she has &#8220;child-rearing values,&#8221; right?</p>
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		<title>By: Phoena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phoena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 16:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is she suggesting that people with kids have no sex lives or sexual fantasies?  What a quack!  Let's not forget the x-rated fantasies of people who are pedophiles almost always have kids of their own (and I think the ones who don't just don't have kids YET).

I don't even need to go into all the million examples of parents who are selfish and neglect their kids' needs in favor of all the things they don't want to give up.  What sacrifice do parents today make? They just do all the things they did before kids, only now they drag the kids along with them, oblivious to the fact that the kids would rather be home playing.

No one with any brains would take her crap seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is she suggesting that people with kids have no sex lives or sexual fantasies?  What a quack!  Let&#8217;s not forget the x-rated fantasies of people who are pedophiles almost always have kids of their own (and I think the ones who don&#8217;t just don&#8217;t have kids YET).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even need to go into all the million examples of parents who are selfish and neglect their kids&#8217; needs in favor of all the things they don&#8217;t want to give up.  What sacrifice do parents today make? They just do all the things they did before kids, only now they drag the kids along with them, oblivious to the fact that the kids would rather be home playing.</p>
<p>No one with any brains would take her crap seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: University Update - Rutgers University - Childfree Raspberries - Having Kids No Longer Key To A Successful Marriage</title>
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		<dc:creator>University Update - Rutgers University - Childfree Raspberries - Having Kids No Longer Key To A Successful Marriage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 06:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chris W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 05:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“The sound you hear is childless child-free people all across America blowing raspberries at these assholes.”...

... WHAAAAAHAAAAAAHAAAAA!!! MUAHAAAAAAHAAAAAAAHAAAAAA!!!

Yep! Of course I'm out there participating in grand orgies since I don't have to raise any children. [rolls eyes] Ms. Dafoe needs to clarify what she said a bit more! Or change her tune. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The sound you hear is childless child-free people all across America blowing raspberries at these assholes.”&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; WHAAAAAHAAAAAAHAAAAA!!! MUAHAAAAAAHAAAAAAAHAAAAAA!!!</p>
<p>Yep! Of course I&#8217;m out there participating in grand orgies since I don&#8217;t have to raise any children. [rolls eyes] Ms. Dafoe needs to clarify what she said a bit more! Or change her tune. <img src='http://thebritgirl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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