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(Note – I deliberately kept the bad spelling mistake in the link – there are others dotted liberally in the nfpworks article).

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It’s hard to believe that someone can really believe the motorcycle loans for bad credit stuff the sheer idiocy that nfpworks purports. Even if none of it makes fast cash loan new york sense. Here are some “highlights”

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What baby?? How can we throw out a baby when we don’t have them?

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Big words. Apparently it hurts her heart and soul et al… payday loans direct in California because some of us have decided not to have children? Why exactly? Has she nothing cash loan for car title nc better to do with her life than to concern herself about things that aren’t overnight payday loans in North Dakota even her business? My advice?

She needs to get a life. Your own.

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Given that some of the key reasons people give for having children is that “they fast cash loan new york want to have a copy of themselves, leave their legacy, have a carer centruion pay day loan in their old age – to name just a few of the myriad other selfish reasons for which payday loans direct in California many have kids, it seems almost amusing that the fact that having children connecticut consolidation debt loan is one of the most narcissistic actions there is – even if it is dressed connecticut consolidation debt loan up as being selfless – completely escapes nfpworks fast cash loan new york.

And of all the things that are truly terrible in the world connecticut consolidation debt loan, rape murder, child abuse, child labour, the holocaust, not to mention connecticut consolidation debt loan religious fanaticism (of which the article reeks), of all these things online payday loans instant approval in California, it is deciding not to have children and being childfree that she finds connecticut consolidation debt loan evil incarnate.

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“How can you possibly believe that deciding to forgo having children payday loans direct in California is narcissist? How about having children for no better reason connecticut consolidation debt loan than to further the family name, or as a publicity stunt (as so many celebrities are doing nowadays) cash loan for car title nc? And what does having been a child at one time have to do with your perceived imperative to have children? You’ve trotted connecticut consolidation debt loan out pretty much every tired cliché that parents overnight payday loans in North Dakota who somehow feel threatened by someone else’s choice that won’t motorcycle loans for bad credit affect them in the least. Don’t worry your little head: motorcycle loans for bad credit our decision not to have children is not any kind of referendum on your decision to have children.”

And to those who tout having children as the way to suddenly become unselfish cash loan for car title nc and sacrificial – most of us “evil” childfree people find we can do that quite overnight payday loans in North Dakota nicely on our own, we don’t need to create another life to understand responsibility overnight payday loans in North Dakota, thanks very much. Neither are women compelled, as Rebecca says in her comment fast cash loan new york, to be breeding machines.

NFPworks – don’t speak on behalf of childfree fast cash loan new york people, a childfree “movement” or a childfree “paradigm”. As your article shows connecticut consolidation debt loan you clearly know nothing about any of them and, worse, you can’t even be bothered personal loan comparrisons in ireland to educate yourself.

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Chris W November 12, 2007 at 4:03 pm

Britgirl, thanks for pointing out this article. I was going to just comment to NFP and say that everyone fast cash loan new york else said what I would have liked to have said. Also, to add that the article just smacks of “sensationalism” fast cash loan new york and leave it at that.

However, seeing as NFP is supposedly a Christian minded blog, well I think fast cash loan new york I’ll take the time to write out a response, from a childfree Christian to a (I assume) centruion pay day loan childed Christian. I doubt the author will even care or respond, but I feel I owe it to myself and my wife to set them straight overnight payday loans in North Dakota on what it means to be REALLY selfish. Not to mention that NFP’s article is NOT what a true Christian fast cash loan new york would write.

I try not to swear, but the term you use on here sometimes… fuckwitted… only just begins to describe the article connecticut consolidation debt loan. I read some of the other ones, and I could only shake my head in shame.

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November 12, 2007 at 5:06 pm

Although I have been endeavoring not to be combative the fuckwit connecticut consolidation debt loan who wrote the post you pointed to got to me. As Chris W has pointed out above cash loan for car title nc no true Christian would write such a toxic and misguided rant.

I left a comment on “its” blog, although I sincerely doubt that anyone who has their personal loan comparrisons in ireland head as far up their ass as that blogger obviously does will ever “see the light”.

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Posted! I’m #32. I think I went on a tirade. My head hurt after connecticut consolidation debt loan all that… :(

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Christine November 12, 2007 at 6:24 pm

The site is by a person who works as the Family Planning overnight payday loans in North Dakota Coordinator of the Madison Diocese in Wisconsin. It’s a traditional overnight payday loans in North Dakota Catholic site. To wit, the blogger is also anti-contraception.

So I guess I’m not surprised by the tenor payday loans direct in California of her post. The opinions expressed are just what I would’ve imagined given connecticut consolidation debt loan the author.

Kat November 12, 2007 at 6:35 pm i didn't pay my payday loans

“Jesus was a bad and selfish man for not having any children. Luckily he didn’t connecticut consolidation debt loan have any kind of legacy to pass on and is now completely forgotten thanks to this omission on his part” motorcycle loans for bad credit.

I’m not religious, but I say AMEN to that. I’ve been giggling over that all afternoon.

And she works for “Family Planning”? What does she plan? Sermons on the mount cash loan for car title nc?

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November 12, 2007 at 9:41 pm

Kat, yeah, — natural family planning centruion pay day loan.
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* Couples seeking to avoid pregnancy practice connecticut consolidation debt loan chaste abstinence during the fertile time of her cycle.

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I wouldn’t take this “article” (which is nothing more than a blog entry) motorcycle loans for bad credit seriously. Consider the source. You can’t expect NFP people payday loans direct in California to be sane or rational, especially on this topic.

Kat November 13, 2007 at 11:25 am

1. Ecological breastfeeding. This is a form of child care that normally spaces babies about online payday loans instant approval in California two years apart on the average.

This is supposed to WORK? Explain that to my friend, who has two children fast cash loan new york ten months apart. Guess it didn’t work so great connecticut consolidation debt loan for her!! And a lot of other people too, I’d say!!

NFPworks November 13, 2007 at 2:45 pm

Britgirl, thanks for all the attention.

Per your comment, “So it’s no surprise that npfworks fast cash loan new york doesn’t, or simply can’t address them, perhaps connecticut consolidation debt loan she’s unable to since her “argument” was so flawed to begin payday loans direct in California with.”

I’ve been out of town, and probably like you I have a full time job that doesn’t allow me to spend all of my time articulately fast cash loan new york responding to dozens upon dozens of comments throughout connecticut consolidation debt loan the day.

I’m working on another blog entry to collectively respond payday loans direct in California to some of the most commented upon aspects of my initial and very contraversial post on “Childfree” proponents.

Thank you for all the attention to my spelling mistakes. It’s endearing. Are you a copy editor fast cash loan new york, or just angry because I spell fertilization with a z instead connecticut consolidation debt loan of s?

Emma November 13, 2007 at 3:17 pm

A couple of comments:

My cousin had two kids in one year (kid #1 was a New Year baby and kid #2 was born December 30th of that same year) thanks to the old can’t-get-knocked-up-whilst-breastfeeding overnight payday loans in North Dakota MYTH.

As for Natural Family Planning, I believe it’s connecticut consolidation debt loan the same thing as the Fertility Awareness Method, which is one of the several payday loans direct in California methods of birth control we use. “Several” being the key word. There’s connecticut consolidation debt loan no “chaste abstinence” involved. During periods of high fertility overnight payday loans in North Dakota, we just use extra precautionary measures during our eyes-roll-back-in-your-head good sex. ;)

Chris W November 13, 2007 at 4:09 pm

“Are you a copy editor, or just angry because I spell fertilization cash loan for car title nc with a z instead of s?”

Gee. Can we say “baiting”?

Chris W November 13, 2007 at 4:16 pm

I tried to add to it, but it said “Load comment failed.”

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Just wanted to add that the author of that blog just lost any other respect I had for them with her comment fast cash loan new york to you.

Anne-Marie November 13, 2007 at 6:27 pm

I added on eventually, Chris. As Bugs Bunny used to say, what a ma-roon.

Britgirl November 13, 2007 at 8:44 pm

Chris – Gee, I think we can I think she’s( personal loan comparrisons in ireland?) trying to be sarcastic. LOL! Oh and yes, the article was really fuckwitted. I’m motorcycle loans for bad credit so glad I’m not the only one who thought so, because it’s the first word I thought of. I understand motorcycle loans for bad credit she doesn’t like the word either ;) On a more serious note it makes overnight payday loans in North Dakota me cringe when so called “Christians” set themselves up to call other people overnight payday loans in North Dakota the things nfp does. I wonder they can use the name in the same breath. Good on you for setting the record cash loan for car title nc straight.

Brightfeather – Don’t hold back ;) I know you know these fast cash loan new york “types” well ;) But I’m going to read your comment motorcycle loans for bad credit. Like you I doubt the blogger will see the light… of all the reasoned comments on her actual blog the only one she could fast cash loan new york pick to respond to was about… cats. Riiight.

Christine… ya, but consider.. I can live with someone not seeing my point of view, even with setting cash loan for car title nc forth a reasoned argument, although why she’s fast cash loan new york so scared of childfree folk is beyond me ;) Oops I forgot overnight payday loans in North Dakota we’re fatuous and evil incarnate… heh! I don’t even care she’s payday loans direct in California anti-contraceptive (even if it is misguided). The post was so illogical that I was amazed cash loan for car title nc anyone could respond to it at all.

Kat – I’m still giggling… I fear the irony connecticut consolidation debt loan is lost on nfpworks. It’s a good thing Jesus didn’t have kids (quite clearly fast cash loan new york having much better things to do) otherwise he’d be held up as an example. Imagine payday loans direct in California!

“I wouldn’t take this “article” (which is nothing more than a blog entry) seriously fast cash loan new york. Consider the source. You can’t expect NFP people to be sane or rational personal loan comparrisons in ireland, especially on this topic.”

Certainly looks like it. I had no idea. I guess I’m too used to rational, reasonable payday loans direct in California, sane thinking, Phoena ;)

npfworks – You are not like me. We have nothing in common, so please don’t even go there motorcycle loans for bad credit. Don’t forget to read my disclaimer… carefully. Potshots cash loan for car title nc, even veiled ones will be cheerfully dealt with. But I suspect you’ve motorcycle loans for bad credit far too many of comments to respond to on your own blog than to waste your time here, in a veritable hotbed of “evil”.

Oh, and by the way? The word is spelled controversial. Not contraversial. And it’s cash loan for car title nc Childfree or child-free or even Childfree. Not “Childfree.” connecticut consolidation debt loan

Anne- Marie…. True.

Britgirl November 13, 2007 at 10:13 pm

Chris W. Brightfeather. Anne-Marie. I read your comments on the blog. Great comments cash loan for car title nc. Bravo!
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Christine November 13, 2007 at 11:33 pm

“…I can live with someone not seeing my point of view, even with setting overnight payday loans in North Dakota forth a reasoned argument, although why she’s so scared connecticut consolidation debt loan of childfree folk is beyond me ;)” “

Yeah, I’ve though about it and I see your point, Britgirl. I too appreciate motorcycle loans for bad credit a well-reasoned argument but my opinion is that you can’t argue with religious folks fast cash loan new york who know for certain God’s on their side. It is a non-starter to my mind. So I don’t go there connecticut consolidation debt loan myself…having grown up with religious fundamentalists in my family I tend to not engage personal loan comparrisons in ireland them or try to make them see my point of view. Defeatist perhaps but one grows weary personal loan comparrisons in ireland.

I don’t deal well with religious folks who think we’re motorcycle loans for bad credit fatuous and evil incarnate, either. But, I imagine like most of us, I am fine with religious cash loan for car title nc folks who are tolerant (nay, accepting) of different points personal loan comparrisons in ireland of view.

I’m not religious myself but I have some dear friends who are quite religious (but not traditional cash loan for car title nc or fundamentalist) and also childfree. I’ve never asked but I bet they use contraceptives connecticut consolidation debt loan ;-).

Hillari November 14, 2007 at 10:13 am

Thanks Britgirl, for bringing yet another person to our attention cash loan for car title nc who has such asinine opinions about the childfree movement. That blogger fast cash loan new york could not even respond intelligently to the responses to their negative, poorly fast cash loan new york thought-out article.

The opinions expressed by that blogger are just another example payday loans direct in California of the rampant ignorance that the childfree is constantly up against.

Stepher November 14, 2007 at 6:09 pm

Britgirl:

I posted this story in our CF & Loving It group overnight payday loans in North Dakota on MySpace. Here’s the website addy:

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THANK YOU for writing about this.

S.

CFSinceSix November 14, 2007 at 9:14 pm

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I couldn’t even read that blog entry.

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“Evil incarnate,” huh? What’s the benefits payday loans direct in California package like with that? ‘Cause if it pays better than my current editorial salary fast cash loan new york, I’d be willing to sign my childfree, “evil incarnate” overnight payday loans in North Dakota self up. ;)

Britgirl November 15, 2007 at 8:38 pm

Stepher – Thanks for posting in your forum cash loan for car title nc. I checked it out… Great comments I enjoyed them.

CFsince6 – Yep! Tripe indeed.
AngryGirrl – LOL

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Tanya November 16, 2007 at 5:03 am

Unbelievable. I’m late to the party, as usual and really motorcycle loans for bad credit have nothing else to add, but HOLY HELL WTF?

Britgirl November 16, 2007 at 10:14 pm

NFPworks is supposed to be working on the “Mother of all rebuttals” connecticut consolidation debt loan (sorry but that was so apt ;).

But I have to say the comments on that post are great. Never mind the tripe overnight payday loans in North Dakota, just read the comments. I know saying that is sending more readers over there cash loan for car title nc (and I bet nfpw has never had so many commentators!) but it is gratifyin and heartening to read such well thought-out, amusing cash loan for car title nc and TRUE comments on that post – some of which are from you of course. Props!

Chris W November 20, 2007 at 9:11 pm

Grrrr….

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Isn’t it just possible that’s what NPF meant when she said it hurt her? Isn’t it just possible connecticut consolidation debt loan that she empathized a terrible tragedy playing out in front of her? Isn’t payday loans direct in California there even a glimmer of a chance that she was concerned about you, rather online payday loans instant approval in California than judging you?

Or are you really that hard of heart that you can’t entertain the possibility fast cash loan new york that a Christian might not care so much about your stance as your being?

To err is human, to forgive, divine…

… For Christians, we understand the Trinity as love, meaning that the love between cash loan for car title nc God the Father and God the Son is so intense that it produces the Holy Spirit. We also believe fast cash loan new york that the true love between a man and a woman parallels and expresses that love in it’s entirety, as best it can in an earthly fast cash loan new york fashion. That means that love that is not fruitful is not love at all, but lust, and for us, that is a sin…

… So, why is our position so poisonous to the Childfree folks? Is it because payday loans direct in California it might make some sense, deep down? Or is it because we believe it so strongly that it might cash loan for car title nc challenge ‘em? Or is it simply that the Childfree folks connecticut consolidation debt loan are easily provoked? I really don’t know, but apparently we are not allowed motorcycle loans for bad credit to have our point of view without being attacked. So be it. Jesus overnight payday loans in North Dakota said this would happen, and now it has. Could He have been right about overnight payday loans in North Dakota some other things, too? Food for thought, if you are so inclined.

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As a fellow Christian, this mindset and one-sided personal loan comparrisons in ireland take on christian philosophy got me very angry. I don’t think she had read my prior motorcycle loans for bad credit comment on the post. Maybe if she did, her thoughts might have done a double-take.

Britgirl November 22, 2007 at 4:52 pm

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Talk about closed minds. And they have the gall to preach connecticut consolidation debt loan about love and Jesus and the Trinity…

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“Isn’t there even a glimmer of a chance that she was concerned connecticut consolidation debt loan about you, rather than judging you?”.

The answer is No.

Sam B. October 11, 2011 at 1:03 am

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Oh and withholding contraception from people? Congratulations, now every call girl, every centruion pay day loan teen-aged girl who has promiscuous sex and every woman who chooses that as a means of making motorcycle loans for bad credit a living will be having kids they can’t keep, don’t want or end up hating. Also, diseases cash loan for car title nc could possibly be spread to those children and other children cash loan for car title nc. And I am really honestly not being disrespectful toward those women connecticut consolidation debt loan. I know they may not have another choice and that they are using protection now. I’m cash loan for car title nc just saying that withholding birth control or condoms is a horrible motorcycle loans for bad credit idea.

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Last time I checked, the constitution gives me the right to do whatever fast cash loan new york I want with my own body, and that includes not giving birth to children. It also gives connecticut consolidation debt loan my husband the right to use protection.

I really don’t mean to preach. I guess when you’re passionate payday loans direct in California about something and good at expressing yourself in words connecticut consolidation debt loan, it just flows forth when it needs to be. Anyway, there’s fast cash loan new york what I think. Thanks for reading.

Scott October 11, 2011 at 3:29 pm

So…. a Catholic-based organization is saying that being childfree personal loan comparrisons in ireland is selfish and un-Godly?

Umm….what about priests and nuns and bishops and archbishops and cardinals and popes connecticut consolidation debt loan? Mother Teresa? By the NFP logic, these people are selfish fast cash loan new york ungodly abominations, the whole lot of them. (At least, the ones who don’t motorcycle loans for bad credit actually have children….)

What, is this blogger some kind of crypto-Protestant heretic or something?

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