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	<title>Comments on: So You Don&#8217;t Have Kids? Be Grateful.</title>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2007/12/04/so-you-dont-have-kids-be-grateful/comment-page-1/#comment-19847</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 20:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think telling you that you&#039;d be a good mother is showing something of the reality of the parenting world. &quot;But you&#039;d be such a great mother!&quot; sounds to me like: 

&quot;There are so many terrible mothers in the world, so many people who have children who really shouldn&#039;t, it&#039;s sad that someone who would be a good mother won&#039;t become a mother. The world could use more good mothers raising children. Instead, we&#039;re stuck with the bad mothers who keep reproducing.&quot; 

That&#039;s what I read into it....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think telling you that you&#8217;d be a good mother is showing something of the reality of the parenting world. &#8220;But you&#8217;d be such a great mother!&#8221; sounds to me like: </p>
<p>&#8220;There are so many terrible mothers in the world, so many people who have children who really shouldn&#8217;t, it&#8217;s sad that someone who would be a good mother won&#8217;t become a mother. The world could use more good mothers raising children. Instead, we&#8217;re stuck with the bad mothers who keep reproducing.&#8221; </p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I read into it&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 22:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>exactly! i know that i am way behind the posting here, but this reminds me... people always say, &quot;but you&#039;d be such a great mother!&quot; as if that&#039;s a reason to have kids, or as if my decision comes from some sort of doubt. i always say &quot;hell yeah i would!&quot; i would rock parenthood. i&#039;m not choosing to eschew parenthood because i&#039;m unsure of my abilities or afraid i&#039;d do a bad job. i just don&#039;t WANT to. it&#039;s not right for me. for some reason people just don&#039;t get that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exactly! i know that i am way behind the posting here, but this reminds me&#8230; people always say, &#8220;but you&#8217;d be such a great mother!&#8221; as if that&#8217;s a reason to have kids, or as if my decision comes from some sort of doubt. i always say &#8220;hell yeah i would!&#8221; i would rock parenthood. i&#8217;m not choosing to eschew parenthood because i&#8217;m unsure of my abilities or afraid i&#8217;d do a bad job. i just don&#8217;t WANT to. it&#8217;s not right for me. for some reason people just don&#8217;t get that.</p>
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		<title>By: ta0505</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2007/12/04/so-you-dont-have-kids-be-grateful/comment-page-1/#comment-19533</link>
		<dc:creator>ta0505</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My thoughts exactly. I have plenty of competence, I even work with couples who have infertility issues, with new born babies, children... and people keep on asking me, if I have kids since I appear so competent.

You don&#039;t need to be a parent to become an educator or care taker, I am in a health care business and I have developed an immense patience, understanding, ability to love and care for someone and  tons of compassion. I dont want this when I get home. I enjoy other stuff and life has plenty to offer.

I get fulfillment with my work and my personal non-parent life and that enables me to be the best &quot;aunt&quot; in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My thoughts exactly. I have plenty of competence, I even work with couples who have infertility issues, with new born babies, children&#8230; and people keep on asking me, if I have kids since I appear so competent.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need to be a parent to become an educator or care taker, I am in a health care business and I have developed an immense patience, understanding, ability to love and care for someone and  tons of compassion. I dont want this when I get home. I enjoy other stuff and life has plenty to offer.</p>
<p>I get fulfillment with my work and my personal non-parent life and that enables me to be the best &#8220;aunt&#8221; in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Gasman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gasman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 00:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well - I would say, have kids - but only if you GENUINELY want them, and it is not  because society, religion, or your spouse is telling you you should want them.

The reasons are outlined in the article. Having kids can be tough. Just because YOU were a well balanced child does not necessarily mean that you&#039;ll be blessed with the same. And if your heart wasn&#039;t truly - and effortlessly - in it in the first place, you will lack the resources and the drive to deal with the tough times, and the rewards, when they come,  will be too small to compensate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well &#8211; I would say, have kids &#8211; but only if you GENUINELY want them, and it is not  because society, religion, or your spouse is telling you you should want them.</p>
<p>The reasons are outlined in the article. Having kids can be tough. Just because YOU were a well balanced child does not necessarily mean that you&#8217;ll be blessed with the same. And if your heart wasn&#8217;t truly &#8211; and effortlessly &#8211; in it in the first place, you will lack the resources and the drive to deal with the tough times, and the rewards, when they come,  will be too small to compensate.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 15:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can tell you that not having children has been fabulous.  My husband and I have been together almost 14 years and we knew that we did not want to have children from day one.  I constantly get told from people that we will change our mind and I can say with confidence that at the age of 40 and my husband 45, neither one of us has ever had any regret on this issue. I have been told by friends that I will regret my decision and that I should start trying for a baby before it is too late. It is funny to me because I know so many people who regret having kids and I have met very few that ever regretted not having kids. Funny how that works. 

We love our freedom. We love being together and enjoy being able to sleep in on the weekends. I was a nanny for 6 years starting at the age of 19 and although I enjoyed working as a nanny, I will say the parents more often than not looked exhausted and miserable when they would come home. I can remember when one of the parents would come home, they would ask me if I could stay another hour so they could have some time to themselves before they had to deal with the children. It seemed for them, the last thing they wanted to deal with were screaming kids after a hard day of work and a long commute home and I completely understood. Even before I was a nanny, I knew I didn&#039;t want to have kids, but after becoming a nanny, I felt validated in my decision. 

The parents of the kids that I watched, were all very good people and I know that they all loved their children, but I could see the stress in their face, I could see how much they longed for time for themselves. It was really sad. Everyone out here who is child free, be strong, stand up for what you believe in and don&#039;t be ashamed to say that you are childfree and are damn proud of it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can tell you that not having children has been fabulous.  My husband and I have been together almost 14 years and we knew that we did not want to have children from day one.  I constantly get told from people that we will change our mind and I can say with confidence that at the age of 40 and my husband 45, neither one of us has ever had any regret on this issue. I have been told by friends that I will regret my decision and that I should start trying for a baby before it is too late. It is funny to me because I know so many people who regret having kids and I have met very few that ever regretted not having kids. Funny how that works. </p>
<p>We love our freedom. We love being together and enjoy being able to sleep in on the weekends. I was a nanny for 6 years starting at the age of 19 and although I enjoyed working as a nanny, I will say the parents more often than not looked exhausted and miserable when they would come home. I can remember when one of the parents would come home, they would ask me if I could stay another hour so they could have some time to themselves before they had to deal with the children. It seemed for them, the last thing they wanted to deal with were screaming kids after a hard day of work and a long commute home and I completely understood. Even before I was a nanny, I knew I didn&#8217;t want to have kids, but after becoming a nanny, I felt validated in my decision. </p>
<p>The parents of the kids that I watched, were all very good people and I know that they all loved their children, but I could see the stress in their face, I could see how much they longed for time for themselves. It was really sad. Everyone out here who is child free, be strong, stand up for what you believe in and don&#8217;t be ashamed to say that you are childfree and are damn proud of it!</p>
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		<title>By: CMC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CMC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 20:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ooops, it should say above that &quot;not one day went by in which I *didn&#039;t* cringe&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ooops, it should say above that &#8220;not one day went by in which I *didn&#8217;t* cringe&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: CMC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CMC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 20:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m coming late to this post, but I wanted to thank everyone for their honesty. I am in the group of those in their late 30s-40s who feel like they are in “limbo-land”. Thanks to modern society and medical possibilities, it seems we can put off having the decision to have kids for longer than ever before. The flip side of this new world of choices is - how many times can I torture myself with the &quot;I&#039;m in a very happy marriage and I love my life vs. I think I&#039;d like to have kids and that door is closing very soon&quot; debate I have in my head almost daily now? I have to admit, though, that the urge to have kids has really only come about (I think) because the door is about to close, the prevalence of this &quot;parenting&quot; culture ... loved those commentors posting about the Facebook issue - please, can parents just use their own freakin&#039; picture for their profile :) ... and because I just don&#039;t want to have any regrets in life. But thanks to this post and the commentors, I&#039;m beginning to realize that there can be regrets on both sides of this issue.

On top of that, I want to share that I just came back from a camping trip with my husband and his teenage son. We stayed at a campground that was geared towards families. And not one day went by in which I cringed because I heard a parent speak meanly to a child, heard excessive whining (from both parents and children), and generally was thankful I could pursue kayaking, swimming, hiking, reading, hanging out with my husband and friends and step-son&#039;s friends around the campfire, and generally enjoy my hard-working, capable life without worrying 24/7 about a kid. I admire good parents so much and am grateful they are out there. But I have a feeling that if we polled all those parents at that campground this week, that not all of them would admit that they were satisfied as parents.

And for the record for the trolls, I don&#039;t think all this naval-gazing this makes me selfish. On the contrary, I think it makes me grateful and appreciative of choices I can make and ready to defend the freedoms of others and also makes me a good person to babysit occasionally for a parent that needs a break.  :)

Best to all on your journeys,
CMC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m coming late to this post, but I wanted to thank everyone for their honesty. I am in the group of those in their late 30s-40s who feel like they are in “limbo-land”. Thanks to modern society and medical possibilities, it seems we can put off having the decision to have kids for longer than ever before. The flip side of this new world of choices is &#8211; how many times can I torture myself with the &#8220;I&#8217;m in a very happy marriage and I love my life vs. I think I&#8217;d like to have kids and that door is closing very soon&#8221; debate I have in my head almost daily now? I have to admit, though, that the urge to have kids has really only come about (I think) because the door is about to close, the prevalence of this &#8220;parenting&#8221; culture &#8230; loved those commentors posting about the Facebook issue &#8211; please, can parents just use their own freakin&#8217; picture for their profile <img src='http://thebritgirl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8230; and because I just don&#8217;t want to have any regrets in life. But thanks to this post and the commentors, I&#8217;m beginning to realize that there can be regrets on both sides of this issue.</p>
<p>On top of that, I want to share that I just came back from a camping trip with my husband and his teenage son. We stayed at a campground that was geared towards families. And not one day went by in which I cringed because I heard a parent speak meanly to a child, heard excessive whining (from both parents and children), and generally was thankful I could pursue kayaking, swimming, hiking, reading, hanging out with my husband and friends and step-son&#8217;s friends around the campfire, and generally enjoy my hard-working, capable life without worrying 24/7 about a kid. I admire good parents so much and am grateful they are out there. But I have a feeling that if we polled all those parents at that campground this week, that not all of them would admit that they were satisfied as parents.</p>
<p>And for the record for the trolls, I don&#8217;t think all this naval-gazing this makes me selfish. On the contrary, I think it makes me grateful and appreciative of choices I can make and ready to defend the freedoms of others and also makes me a good person to babysit occasionally for a parent that needs a break.  <img src='http://thebritgirl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Best to all on your journeys,<br />
CMC</p>
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		<title>By: samantha</title>
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		<dc:creator>samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you know that really upsets me that you feel that way cuz my mom had four kids bein a single mother for years ya we make mistakes but we are great so i feel the kids that do get in the most trouble are the ones with parents that dont care or just give up on trying to punish their children and im sorry u feel that way but kids arent that bad ya they make mistakes and argue with you but all u have to do is put your foot down</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know that really upsets me that you feel that way cuz my mom had four kids bein a single mother for years ya we make mistakes but we are great so i feel the kids that do get in the most trouble are the ones with parents that dont care or just give up on trying to punish their children and im sorry u feel that way but kids arent that bad ya they make mistakes and argue with you but all u have to do is put your foot down</p>
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		<title>By: Jamal</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2007/12/04/so-you-dont-have-kids-be-grateful/comment-page-1/#comment-18829</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2011 04:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny how all the comments are interesting to read, sometimes more interesting then reading the article itself. 

Anyhow, I&#039;m in the same boat,  I&#039;m a 31 year old male who is single with no kids; and let me tell you, IT&#039;S GREAT, and I feel extremely happy with my decision and my life thus far.

At 31, I&#039;m planning on early retirement, traveling, and moving to another county all together .   I do what I want, and my stress is VERY low due to not having to worry about anybody but myself.  

Like others have said, I do wish that Western society would not pressure young people so much to have babies.  I&#039;m just sick of it, so much so I have even cut people I have known for years out of my life because they simply refuse respect my CHOICE of not getting married, and bringing more children into this F***  up world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how all the comments are interesting to read, sometimes more interesting then reading the article itself. </p>
<p>Anyhow, I&#8217;m in the same boat,  I&#8217;m a 31 year old male who is single with no kids; and let me tell you, IT&#8217;S GREAT, and I feel extremely happy with my decision and my life thus far.</p>
<p>At 31, I&#8217;m planning on early retirement, traveling, and moving to another county all together .   I do what I want, and my stress is VERY low due to not having to worry about anybody but myself.  </p>
<p>Like others have said, I do wish that Western society would not pressure young people so much to have babies.  I&#8217;m just sick of it, so much so I have even cut people I have known for years out of my life because they simply refuse respect my CHOICE of not getting married, and bringing more children into this F***  up world.</p>
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		<title>By: Reba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 03:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto!</p>
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		<title>By: NewToScene</title>
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		<dc:creator>NewToScene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear HonestDad,
I realize this post is from over two years ago but I just had to reply. I recently started searching for websites and articles that support a ChildFree life. Even though you are a man who is already a father and I am mid-twenties woman who is newly engaged with no children, I have never encountered a more on-the-spot testimony of how I feel on the inside from someone else. 

I have heard those exact 3 answers from people who are trying to convince me to get ready, get married, and start having babies. However, it&#039;s your answer that gives me hope that my budding conviction to not have children is not completely bonkers. I can hear myself giving that EXACT speech to someone in the future (just change the gender specific nouns and pronouns around). 

The hardest part about making this decision is to live with the doubt... and everyone is just giddy to help out. It&#039;s like they have a special sensor that alerts them to the doubt... and then: &quot;Well, you OBVIOUSLY want children subconsciously... just wait a couple years.&quot;

Anyway, thank you for sharing your story. It has really hit home and is resonating. I&#039;m almost convinced you are me from the future - come back in time to warn myself against parenthood... but cleverly disguised so as to prevent paradox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear HonestDad,<br />
I realize this post is from over two years ago but I just had to reply. I recently started searching for websites and articles that support a ChildFree life. Even though you are a man who is already a father and I am mid-twenties woman who is newly engaged with no children, I have never encountered a more on-the-spot testimony of how I feel on the inside from someone else. </p>
<p>I have heard those exact 3 answers from people who are trying to convince me to get ready, get married, and start having babies. However, it&#8217;s your answer that gives me hope that my budding conviction to not have children is not completely bonkers. I can hear myself giving that EXACT speech to someone in the future (just change the gender specific nouns and pronouns around). </p>
<p>The hardest part about making this decision is to live with the doubt&#8230; and everyone is just giddy to help out. It&#8217;s like they have a special sensor that alerts them to the doubt&#8230; and then: &#8220;Well, you OBVIOUSLY want children subconsciously&#8230; just wait a couple years.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyway, thank you for sharing your story. It has really hit home and is resonating. I&#8217;m almost convinced you are me from the future &#8211; come back in time to warn myself against parenthood&#8230; but cleverly disguised so as to prevent paradox.</p>
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		<title>By: jerome</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 15:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just because some ppl dont have kids doesnt mean they will die without someone by their side</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just because some ppl dont have kids doesnt mean they will die without someone by their side</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 04:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am mostly glad that I never had any children , because I have a lot of free time to do creative pursuits, such as play piano, travel, meditate and My body will be in good shape, too.  I don&#039;t have to bring a person into this overpopulated world, that is for the most part deteriorating and getting worse by the minute. my next door neighbors are having their first child and I feel a sense of compassion for the pregnant woman.  It is a sad thought that she is bringing a human being into this sad place.  People think that having a child will help them in some way, make them happier.  It just complicates life, really.  My life is my life and I am truly selfish and I will call the shots without involving myself with another human being and being responsible for them to have a good life in this violent and strange world.  Having kids now is selfish.  There are so many children to adopt without homes and animals for that matter.   I will spoil myself with this life long decision to not bear such a responsibility and I can have all the time to learn about life and being a parent in this strange world is too hard a job for a carefree soul &quot;comme moi&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am mostly glad that I never had any children , because I have a lot of free time to do creative pursuits, such as play piano, travel, meditate and My body will be in good shape, too.  I don&#8217;t have to bring a person into this overpopulated world, that is for the most part deteriorating and getting worse by the minute. my next door neighbors are having their first child and I feel a sense of compassion for the pregnant woman.  It is a sad thought that she is bringing a human being into this sad place.  People think that having a child will help them in some way, make them happier.  It just complicates life, really.  My life is my life and I am truly selfish and I will call the shots without involving myself with another human being and being responsible for them to have a good life in this violent and strange world.  Having kids now is selfish.  There are so many children to adopt without homes and animals for that matter.   I will spoil myself with this life long decision to not bear such a responsibility and I can have all the time to learn about life and being a parent in this strange world is too hard a job for a carefree soul &#8220;comme moi&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: og217</title>
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		<dc:creator>og217</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally have the ability and competence, but no desire.  Believe me, my kid would be fed, washed, burped, massaged, yoga-ed, therapied, and whatever else are the new &quot;musts&quot; of child rearing.  I can totally see myself runing a super tight ship and being that wack-a-doodle who thinks no one can babysit because &quot;they don&#039;t know what they&#039;re doing.&quot;  So, competence I got plenty.  I rise to all challenges, and am a hard worker.  But I would be miserable and misery to be around, and I would fully expect my husband to eventually fall out of love with me and maybe leave me.   I would be horrid - stressed, angry, annoyed, resentful and nagging at him to do stuff, and then push him out of the way because &quot;he isnt doing it right.&quot;  I have no desire to become the scary, sleep-deprived, obsessive and sexless version of me with floppy, saggy boobs and bladder issues.  I think ability is a matter of character - anyone can learn this, its not brain surgery as is evidenced by all the people who aren&#039;t too sharp but produce normal, average children.  Desire is innate, and that can&#039;t be helped.  The desire is what makes the difference.  People who have that desire see the good.  People who don&#039;t have it see everything as a burden and a nuisance.  That&#039;d be me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally have the ability and competence, but no desire.  Believe me, my kid would be fed, washed, burped, massaged, yoga-ed, therapied, and whatever else are the new &#8220;musts&#8221; of child rearing.  I can totally see myself runing a super tight ship and being that wack-a-doodle who thinks no one can babysit because &#8220;they don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re doing.&#8221;  So, competence I got plenty.  I rise to all challenges, and am a hard worker.  But I would be miserable and misery to be around, and I would fully expect my husband to eventually fall out of love with me and maybe leave me.   I would be horrid &#8211; stressed, angry, annoyed, resentful and nagging at him to do stuff, and then push him out of the way because &#8220;he isnt doing it right.&#8221;  I have no desire to become the scary, sleep-deprived, obsessive and sexless version of me with floppy, saggy boobs and bladder issues.  I think ability is a matter of character &#8211; anyone can learn this, its not brain surgery as is evidenced by all the people who aren&#8217;t too sharp but produce normal, average children.  Desire is innate, and that can&#8217;t be helped.  The desire is what makes the difference.  People who have that desire see the good.  People who don&#8217;t have it see everything as a burden and a nuisance.  That&#8217;d be me.</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 02:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad, you are a pathetic joke.  Just because we were children, or that our parents suffered through raising us does not mean that we must, or that we owe it to anyone to reproduce.  It&#039;s illogical.  We owe it to our awesome parents to  support ourselves and live full lives-- that&#039;s showing that their suffering through our pain-in-the-assery was worth it.  

You said, &quot;Dude, obviously if people go through that bad of issues with their children then they shouldn’t even be parents.&quot; you do not know what experience you will have with parenting until you have committed to it.  I repeat: children are caveat emptor-- they are as-is, non-refundable, and non-programmable.  They have their own will, and no matter how strict, how much of a disciplinarian or authority you are they will follow their own choice and may or may not &quot;turn out fine&quot;.  So when people who perhaps erroneously decide to attempt &quot;parenting&quot; find that it is not all sunshine and rainbows, that the idiots that they allowed to convince them to reproduce misled them, they&#039;re already entrenched.

A few words of advice: think before you speak, and if you have a high school diploma, you should know how to use spell and grammar check.  For everyone&#039;s benefit, I really hope that you don&#039;t reproduce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad, you are a pathetic joke.  Just because we were children, or that our parents suffered through raising us does not mean that we must, or that we owe it to anyone to reproduce.  It&#8217;s illogical.  We owe it to our awesome parents to  support ourselves and live full lives&#8211; that&#8217;s showing that their suffering through our pain-in-the-assery was worth it.  </p>
<p>You said, &#8220;Dude, obviously if people go through that bad of issues with their children then they shouldn’t even be parents.&#8221; you do not know what experience you will have with parenting until you have committed to it.  I repeat: children are caveat emptor&#8211; they are as-is, non-refundable, and non-programmable.  They have their own will, and no matter how strict, how much of a disciplinarian or authority you are they will follow their own choice and may or may not &#8220;turn out fine&#8221;.  So when people who perhaps erroneously decide to attempt &#8220;parenting&#8221; find that it is not all sunshine and rainbows, that the idiots that they allowed to convince them to reproduce misled them, they&#8217;re already entrenched.</p>
<p>A few words of advice: think before you speak, and if you have a high school diploma, you should know how to use spell and grammar check.  For everyone&#8217;s benefit, I really hope that you don&#8217;t reproduce.</p>
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		<title>By: Carla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 03:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so glad I found this blog! I have been looking for a childfree forum/blog that wasnt so bloody angry all the time.  Thank you for your honest posts about your life and your decision not to have children. I look forward to reading more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so glad I found this blog! I have been looking for a childfree forum/blog that wasnt so bloody angry all the time.  Thank you for your honest posts about your life and your decision not to have children. I look forward to reading more.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 06:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I can’t recall the website, but someone else mentioned this: For something to be selfish, there must be harm done to someone or something.&quot;

Actually, it&#039;s much simpler than that - any action/decision a person performs in service of his/her -self is technically a &quot;selfish&quot; act.  Heck, brushing your teeth is a selfish act, as is feeding yourself.  There is typically no harm done in those actions; except to bacteria and hunger.  

Where the selfish moniker comes into play seems to be when the man/woman denies their spouse a child when said spouse desires one.   That right there smacks of dependency issues.   For a couple to have a child out of love is one thing, but for said kid to complete a relationship is evil.  I mean, why get married unless you love the person for what they are, if the end goal is calculated to obtain something else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I can’t recall the website, but someone else mentioned this: For something to be selfish, there must be harm done to someone or something.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, it&#8217;s much simpler than that &#8211; any action/decision a person performs in service of his/her -self is technically a &#8220;selfish&#8221; act.  Heck, brushing your teeth is a selfish act, as is feeding yourself.  There is typically no harm done in those actions; except to bacteria and hunger.  </p>
<p>Where the selfish moniker comes into play seems to be when the man/woman denies their spouse a child when said spouse desires one.   That right there smacks of dependency issues.   For a couple to have a child out of love is one thing, but for said kid to complete a relationship is evil.  I mean, why get married unless you love the person for what they are, if the end goal is calculated to obtain something else?</p>
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		<title>By: Britgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Britgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 04:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing this Heather. I found it so interesting that I made it into an article. You&#039;ve already started getting comments here, and hopefully it being an article will ensure you get more feedback. I&#039;ll comment later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing this Heather. I found it so interesting that I made it into an article. You&#8217;ve already started getting comments here, and hopefully it being an article will ensure you get more feedback. I&#8217;ll comment later.</p>
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		<title>By: SG</title>
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		<dc:creator>SG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 03:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great, great post, Heather. Comments like this are why this blog is such an incredible resource. You have articulated in a very lucid way your predicament and I think you came to the right place.  

I would certainly hit the pause button on the wedding machine. This is a big deal and a show-stopper no matter what you are thinking and how you are feeling. While it would&#039;ve been nicer and cheaper for you and your family had your fiancé had dropped this bomb earlier, you have said yourself your glad he did it before you tied the knot. Without having any more details about your situation, I wouldn&#039;t be too hard on your wishy-washy husband-to-be. The very real pressure of committing to a marriage is overwhelming enough as it is.  Agreeing to sire offspring cranks any commitment issues up to 11, if you know what I mean. A lot of people would say he&#039;s being immature, but I think the exact inverse is true. I think your fiancé has actually stopped and taken stock of what he is signing up for and he realizes, at least now, he doesn&#039;t want it and has spoken up before it was too late. Most men in his situation wouldn&#039;t have the backbone to do what he did given all the expense, social and family pressure, and societal norms at play. 

Half of all marriages end in divorce, or so I hear and read.  Money woes (probably brought on by having children before a couple is financially stable enough to incur the debt brought on by having kids)  rank as the number-one cause of marital breakups, but I would hazard a guess most marriages fail because one or both parties don&#039;t lay all their cards out on the table before getting married. Nobody sees eye-to-eye on everything, so it&#039;s impossible to have someone in complete accord with you, even the person you love the most. However, the topic of becoming a parent is an all-or-nothing affair. There&#039;s no middle-ground, despite what many people say. You&#039;re either in or your out, as it were. Both man and woman, ideally, should absolutely really want a child (in all of its incarnations - infant, toddler, child, adolescent and young adult) before making a baby. 

Even if your fiancé suppressed his feelings on not wanting children and got along to get along so he could get married to you, eventually his very real desires to not have a child would fester and grow and become an issue eventually. More than likely, you would feel rightly betrayed and your marriage would hit some turbulence. So, if he had doubts, he did the right thing by grabbing the brakes. It&#039;s frustrating and embarrassing for everyone concerned, but I admire anyone that will be honest, even when it hurts.

Even though you don&#039;t think you want kids now, I have a hunch you will want them in the future. I could be wrong, but having children seems to be how you frame married life. There&#039;s nothing wrong with that if that&#039;s what you want. 

Aside from the money put into the wedding plans, what&#039;s the rush? You are young enough to give this some more time. Sounds like you&#039;re still on speaking terms with your fiancé, so why don&#039;t you two, without dealing with your parents or anybody else, agree to some kind of date in the future (I&#039;d say give it a year, at least) to decide whether marriage is what both of you want. That will give you time to hash this child thing out. You OWE it to YOURSELVES to do this. You owe it to your kids, assuming you have them (with this guy or some other man in the future) that when they are born they are wanted and both you and your husband are committed 100% to being parents. 

I&#039;m so glad this has happened to you. I know that sounds morbid or grim or whatever, but I see too many people (and I include me at the the top of this list) fumble when it comes to speaking up on what they want and don&#039;t want in their married life, only to regret it later. Take it from me, it is the only life you get. You will never be 26 again - you will never get your youth back. Decide wisely. The same goes for your fiancé. You two both sound like you are smart - smart enough to know this is no little decision.  Make sure you both want the same things in life or you will likely part ways one way or another. 

Good luck with this and thanks for bringing it here. Most people wouldn&#039;t have the internal strength to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great, great post, Heather. Comments like this are why this blog is such an incredible resource. You have articulated in a very lucid way your predicament and I think you came to the right place.  </p>
<p>I would certainly hit the pause button on the wedding machine. This is a big deal and a show-stopper no matter what you are thinking and how you are feeling. While it would&#8217;ve been nicer and cheaper for you and your family had your fiancé had dropped this bomb earlier, you have said yourself your glad he did it before you tied the knot. Without having any more details about your situation, I wouldn&#8217;t be too hard on your wishy-washy husband-to-be. The very real pressure of committing to a marriage is overwhelming enough as it is.  Agreeing to sire offspring cranks any commitment issues up to 11, if you know what I mean. A lot of people would say he&#8217;s being immature, but I think the exact inverse is true. I think your fiancé has actually stopped and taken stock of what he is signing up for and he realizes, at least now, he doesn&#8217;t want it and has spoken up before it was too late. Most men in his situation wouldn&#8217;t have the backbone to do what he did given all the expense, social and family pressure, and societal norms at play. </p>
<p>Half of all marriages end in divorce, or so I hear and read.  Money woes (probably brought on by having children before a couple is financially stable enough to incur the debt brought on by having kids)  rank as the number-one cause of marital breakups, but I would hazard a guess most marriages fail because one or both parties don&#8217;t lay all their cards out on the table before getting married. Nobody sees eye-to-eye on everything, so it&#8217;s impossible to have someone in complete accord with you, even the person you love the most. However, the topic of becoming a parent is an all-or-nothing affair. There&#8217;s no middle-ground, despite what many people say. You&#8217;re either in or your out, as it were. Both man and woman, ideally, should absolutely really want a child (in all of its incarnations &#8211; infant, toddler, child, adolescent and young adult) before making a baby. </p>
<p>Even if your fiancé suppressed his feelings on not wanting children and got along to get along so he could get married to you, eventually his very real desires to not have a child would fester and grow and become an issue eventually. More than likely, you would feel rightly betrayed and your marriage would hit some turbulence. So, if he had doubts, he did the right thing by grabbing the brakes. It&#8217;s frustrating and embarrassing for everyone concerned, but I admire anyone that will be honest, even when it hurts.</p>
<p>Even though you don&#8217;t think you want kids now, I have a hunch you will want them in the future. I could be wrong, but having children seems to be how you frame married life. There&#8217;s nothing wrong with that if that&#8217;s what you want. </p>
<p>Aside from the money put into the wedding plans, what&#8217;s the rush? You are young enough to give this some more time. Sounds like you&#8217;re still on speaking terms with your fiancé, so why don&#8217;t you two, without dealing with your parents or anybody else, agree to some kind of date in the future (I&#8217;d say give it a year, at least) to decide whether marriage is what both of you want. That will give you time to hash this child thing out. You OWE it to YOURSELVES to do this. You owe it to your kids, assuming you have them (with this guy or some other man in the future) that when they are born they are wanted and both you and your husband are committed 100% to being parents. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m so glad this has happened to you. I know that sounds morbid or grim or whatever, but I see too many people (and I include me at the the top of this list) fumble when it comes to speaking up on what they want and don&#8217;t want in their married life, only to regret it later. Take it from me, it is the only life you get. You will never be 26 again &#8211; you will never get your youth back. Decide wisely. The same goes for your fiancé. You two both sound like you are smart &#8211; smart enough to know this is no little decision.  Make sure you both want the same things in life or you will likely part ways one way or another. </p>
<p>Good luck with this and thanks for bringing it here. Most people wouldn&#8217;t have the internal strength to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 15:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found you forum due to the fact that my fiancé dropped a huge bomb on me two days ago. After 5 years of telling me he DID want a child (he did this on his own accord and with out any pressure from me. He even broke up with a girl once because she didn&#039;t want a child) he changed his mind and told me he now he doesn&#039;t want any ever. I will say since he and I have had multiple conversations about this, I didn&#039;t handle it well when he told me this new bit of information. I was mostly angry with him because I had never thought of what life would be like with out a child; and my parents have already spent a ton of money on our wedding and I&#039;ve bought my wedding dress.  We  had the conversation about having kids before; but never the conversation about what would happen if we didn&#039;t. I felt like he was selfish for not thinking about this sooner and putting me in this position; however, I’m happy he told me this BEFORE we were married.

Now, I am a very nurturing person, I always have been. I helped my mom basically raise my baby sister because my father traveled all of the time and my mom suffers from depression and couldn&#039;t handle my energizer bunny like little sister at times. I&#039;ve always babysat, and at one point I was a nanny. Since I was young I&#039;ve always been told, &quot;What a good mommy you&#039;ll make!&quot; So, I guess I just adopted that idea as my own. 
When my fiancé said he didn&#039;t want children anymore, I&#039;ll admit, I freaked out. But now, I&#039;ve have been MADE to take a moment and pause and to think. You know, I&#039;m 26 and still have so many things to achieve. Not to mention I&#039;m a people pleaser and I could see losing myself in a child because I would be paranoid about not being a perfect mom. I love my mom 100%, and I know she loves me, but I think part of the reason she was so depressed was because she had 3 very needy little girls, a husband that was away at LEAST 40% of the time, and no time for herself. I love my mom, but I don&#039;t want to be her. 

I mean I have no desire for a child right now at all; I&#039;m just worried I might later. My relationship with my fiancé isn&#039;t lacking; we are usually much more comfortable and in love with one another then almost all of our friends. I think I might really be ok with not having kids.  

Feedback about this would be awesome. Cause I know if I go through with this, everyone and their brother is going to be telling me I&#039;m making a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found you forum due to the fact that my fiancé dropped a huge bomb on me two days ago. After 5 years of telling me he DID want a child (he did this on his own accord and with out any pressure from me. He even broke up with a girl once because she didn&#8217;t want a child) he changed his mind and told me he now he doesn&#8217;t want any ever. I will say since he and I have had multiple conversations about this, I didn&#8217;t handle it well when he told me this new bit of information. I was mostly angry with him because I had never thought of what life would be like with out a child; and my parents have already spent a ton of money on our wedding and I&#8217;ve bought my wedding dress.  We  had the conversation about having kids before; but never the conversation about what would happen if we didn&#8217;t. I felt like he was selfish for not thinking about this sooner and putting me in this position; however, I’m happy he told me this BEFORE we were married.</p>
<p>Now, I am a very nurturing person, I always have been. I helped my mom basically raise my baby sister because my father traveled all of the time and my mom suffers from depression and couldn&#8217;t handle my energizer bunny like little sister at times. I&#8217;ve always babysat, and at one point I was a nanny. Since I was young I&#8217;ve always been told, &#8220;What a good mommy you&#8217;ll make!&#8221; So, I guess I just adopted that idea as my own.<br />
When my fiancé said he didn&#8217;t want children anymore, I&#8217;ll admit, I freaked out. But now, I&#8217;ve have been MADE to take a moment and pause and to think. You know, I&#8217;m 26 and still have so many things to achieve. Not to mention I&#8217;m a people pleaser and I could see losing myself in a child because I would be paranoid about not being a perfect mom. I love my mom 100%, and I know she loves me, but I think part of the reason she was so depressed was because she had 3 very needy little girls, a husband that was away at LEAST 40% of the time, and no time for herself. I love my mom, but I don&#8217;t want to be her. </p>
<p>I mean I have no desire for a child right now at all; I&#8217;m just worried I might later. My relationship with my fiancé isn&#8217;t lacking; we are usually much more comfortable and in love with one another then almost all of our friends. I think I might really be ok with not having kids.  </p>
<p>Feedback about this would be awesome. Cause I know if I go through with this, everyone and their brother is going to be telling me I&#8217;m making a mistake.</p>
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