Yea, being a mom of FOUR CHILDREN makes me want to take advice on birth control from her - unbelievable.

Which is a danger of a lot of cf forums, they forget that men can be cf too.They forget that it affects men. And some sites actually seem to hate men.

I am not surprised at forums imploding, it takes a lot of work, some self police, and they are the better ones, I moderate my forum, i do a hard moderation, but it runs me ragged.

Its when it gets into the personal politics rather than the good of the board, thats when it becomes like bella and a few others. They try to be friends to all, and it can get worse if parents get involved in moderating a cf forum, they become apologists for others.

I hve recently asked for volunteer moderators on my forum. So i am looking to expand.. BUT i know the dangers. So i dont apologise for what i say. If they dont like what i say, they can leave.

(true story, i had one poster(guest) object to the content of an offsite link not the actual link but other things they said on other posts of theirs. and said i should remove all mentions as some of their pages we offensive to them, I DIDNT and wouldnt)

If I tested out a hypothesis with that kind of track record, I would call it busted.

LOL!!! Isn’t that the truth!!!! I would not be taking birth control advice from someone who has four children. Unless, I would listen to them on what NOT to do for birth control!

As for Bella, I went back. You’re right, it is lame. All those parents in the CF threads trying to “relate” to childfree people. Not going to happen. Just like they tell us we wouldn’t understand or know because we don’t have kids, well the same for them, they would NOT understand or know because they DO have kids. The CF forums over there look boring, contrived, not at all CF friendly/safe.

Childfreeee “I think CF sites are better off if they are independent, rather than moderated by non-CF people - in independent sites, CF can say whatever they want, however they want, without being censored.”
Agree.

I used to visit Bella a few years ago, back when it was truly a CF site and recently checked it out - my GOD - it’s pathetic. A bunch of childed people starting stupid fucking ‘honey threads’ to try and keep it alive. What a joke. And if I hear Lisa-ho-lard say one more god dammed thing about Pagans, I’m going to vomit in my mouth. STFU already about it. I hate when religion of any sorts is constantly thrown up. Everyone has different beliefs, leave it alone.

Britgirl: I love your writings and look forward to reading them. Thanks for having us here. I adore Brit humor!

Regards,
str8six

MNK was one of the first forums I visited and made a huge impact on my CF-choice. I especially remember the article about taking the road less travelled..

Its sad to notice that the earlier so “brave” Kim Kenney has been censored.

It’s obvious that they are trying to make it look like the board is still alive. It’s kind of pathetic. From what I read in the thread MNK was the board with the most traffic. Boy did they shoot themselves in the foot.

Mrs. Ogre

call me the troll killer.. theres a couple that self police, we have no administrators, no moderators, its self moderated. Which is how it should be. But unfortunatly we need disclaimers, we need to cover our backs.

Back to topic, all this bruhaha at bella online (i used to post there years back), does one good thing, it spreads the childfree out on the web, cf blogs, other cf forums. the more the merrier.

Take care.

Puts “playing nice” on a whole new level, that’s for sure. I think the childfree-ers are well shot of that forum.

I’m soooooooooooo grateful for my MySpace groups of peeps, several of us now have blogs. They are linked on my blog, which I don’t actually use TO blog. Long story.

Anyhoo — if support or encouraging words are needed for me fellow CFers, do let me know. I can help to rally the troops.

GREAT to see you back; I missed you!!!

Stepher

“Honestly, if those parents are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO busy, and they are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO tired of RAISING OUR FYOOOTURE, how in the WORLD do they have the time or energy to be reading childfree boards? Srsly. Further, not just reading, but patroling and policing!”

Just one of many good questions

Can’t wait for the new CHILDFREE Community!

Secondly, deleting posts seems mighty extreme - and rather vicious. I don’t know the forum rules but threads can be closed rather than deleted I’m sure. 2000+ posts!!

You’re right. It is pathetic. I’m sad it all went down that way, but I’m also a firm believer that when one door closes another opens and at least now you know what you’re dealing with. Now you can do your own thing!

And I guess when a non-CFer was head of a childfree forum… well, I suppose this is what we get. I suspect even the editors/fake posters won’t be able to match the traffic you created for that forum though ;). It’s not posts that make a community popular it’s those in the community who have the relationship and I doubt they can replicate that.

Not even with shiny, happy sheeple and shiny happy, positive posts.

Of course the moderator/owner wants a CF community. She wants more people to her site to generate more income / revenue. I’m sure she’ll probably say she’s not making any money. But I saw quite a bit of advertisements the 3 minutes I was there.

Bella Online is not a community I ever visited. I didn’t even know about it until Britgirl’s post.

Quite frankly, and to be very very very honest, it is exactly for the broo-ha-ha that the m00mbies are making about the terms we use and the issues we discuss, and the MANNER in which we discuss being childfree, and all of their complaints, is exactly why I DON’T EVER visit a “childfree” community like one at Bella Online, or any other sites like iVillage, or any other place where there are parents. They bleed over into “our” space and decide they want to take over and control the community to their own satisfaction. Just like parents and breeders do. Control the world, encase it in foam, so their precious brats can be “safe.”

I only visit child free communities that are strictly childfree. i.e. they’re either on their own servers, or is the primary sponsor. It is bad enough that breeders take the time to come over to our web space when there isn’t even parental involvement. But to have a CF community among parenting boards, is like have a hen in the wolf’s den.

Honestly, if those parents are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO busy, and they are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO tired of RAISING OUR FYOOOTURE, how in the WORLD do they have the time or energy to be reading childfree boards? Srsly. Further, not just reading, but patroling and policing!

The owner of Bella Online is a parent. Just as parents insist that we CF people could never understand them and what they go through, so could she, or other parents, NEVER understand the CF community, our way of thinking, and even our lifestyle.

Remember, parents who say they used to be “CF” until they had kids were NEVER CF to begin with. They were simply childLESS. As we all know.

Also, before I forget, I agree with you, Britgirl, on all these disclaimers the CF have to put in our posts. I say, FORGET the disclaimers. No, I don’t like kids. I don’t like YOUR kids, I don’t like ANYONE’S kids - not even my cousins’ children. No, my best friend is NOT a parent. My best friend is childfree. Why? Because she doesn’t have kids and feels like I do! And yes, I think pretty much ALL kids are brats! And that means YOUR CHILDREN TOO. (Whenever a parent tells me, “Oh, you’ll like my kid. Snotleigh is a pretty cool kid.” Well of COURSE you think your kid is cool, you have a biased opinion.)

At anyrate, if the new CF community will be run BY the childfree FOR the childfree, without having to answer to parents (who aren’t even OUR parents, for Pete’s sake!) I’ll certainly be interested. Britgirl, keep us updated. Good luck to everyone starting the new website. I’ll be sure to visit.

Also, I am positive that the troll who started all of this was one of the editors in “disguise,” using hateful language towards us to bait us - we often use very rude language against TROLLS, NOT regular posters. That person was allowed more than 2 dozen posts (on MNK alone) of pure hatred and abuse before it was “deleted” (I don’t believe that.) At this point I’m sure that it was a complete bait.

And why did we never hear of any of these complaints?

If you go to MNK now, most of the posts are by editors we’ve never even heard of before. Also, there are suddenly tons of “new” posters - more than we’ve ever had at one time before. The funniest post is by the one who “bingoed” one of our members, saying she was sure that this particular CF member would make an excellent mother and should consider it. I think if you’re going to encourage your editors to post on MNK, you should explain what the forum is about.

It’s pathetic. I’m SO glad to have a new home.

I would love to put a link to the new home on my web site (www.childfree.ca) when it’s up and running. Could someone drop me an email through my site?

Congrats on building your new home!

Heather, list-owner, CF and like kids on yahoo