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	<title>Comments on: Childfree&#8230; and It&#8217;s Not Up For Discussion</title>
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		<title>By: CFSinceSix</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2008/11/25/childfree-and-its-not-up-for-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-14936</link>
		<dc:creator>CFSinceSix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 05:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, my mom pissed me off the other day. I won&#039;t go into the whole conversation, but after YEARS of not bringing it up she mentioned that she thought that maybe I might want kids.

I had just had surgery in my neck so this came out as a whimper, but I know that I YELLED, &quot;WHAT?!?&quot; She sort of laughed and I said, &quot;My not wanting children is not up for discussion. You&#039;ve known I don&#039;t want kids my whole life.&quot; This, inspite of the fact that she was &lt;i&gt;in the room&lt;/i&gt; when my weight loss surgeon told me that that surgery went fine and I was &quot;snipped and burned&quot; because I had had a tubal ligation at the same time. This was about 7 years ago. She has conveniently forgotten that conversation.

She then said, get this, your head will explode because mine nearly did, &quot;Well, I know you don&#039;t want kids but I thought that maybe you might want kids.&quot;

huh?

I ended the phone call right there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, my mom pissed me off the other day. I won&#8217;t go into the whole conversation, but after YEARS of not bringing it up she mentioned that she thought that maybe I might want kids.</p>
<p>I had just had surgery in my neck so this came out as a whimper, but I know that I YELLED, &#8220;WHAT?!?&#8221; She sort of laughed and I said, &#8220;My not wanting children is not up for discussion. You&#8217;ve known I don&#8217;t want kids my whole life.&#8221; This, inspite of the fact that she was <i>in the room</i> when my weight loss surgeon told me that that surgery went fine and I was &#8220;snipped and burned&#8221; because I had had a tubal ligation at the same time. This was about 7 years ago. She has conveniently forgotten that conversation.</p>
<p>She then said, get this, your head will explode because mine nearly did, &#8220;Well, I know you don&#8217;t want kids but I thought that maybe you might want kids.&#8221;</p>
<p>huh?</p>
<p>I ended the phone call right there.</p>
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		<title>By: CFSinceSix</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2008/11/25/childfree-and-its-not-up-for-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-14935</link>
		<dc:creator>CFSinceSix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 05:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sebastyne, I&#039;ve had people try and bingo me with, &quot;But, what if you find the right guy?&quot; Or &quot;You just need to find the right guy. Then you&#039;ll want children.&quot;

I&#039;ve always come back with, &quot;The RIGHT GUY won&#039;t want children, like me.&quot;

That always stumped them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sebastyne, I&#8217;ve had people try and bingo me with, &#8220;But, what if you find the right guy?&#8221; Or &#8220;You just need to find the right guy. Then you&#8217;ll want children.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always come back with, &#8220;The RIGHT GUY won&#8217;t want children, like me.&#8221;</p>
<p>That always stumped them.</p>
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		<title>By: Britgirl</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2008/11/25/childfree-and-its-not-up-for-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-14912</link>
		<dc:creator>Britgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@RMS: I was in a conversation just today and predictable the woman asked me &quot;Do you have kids?&quot; She had already got her pics ready to show me. &quot;No&quot;, I said, and changed the subject immediately. I could visibly feel the temperature drop a couple of degrees, but I carried on my conversation as if I didn&#039;t notice. And I didn&#039;t care. Sweet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@RMS: I was in a conversation just today and predictable the woman asked me &#8220;Do you have kids?&#8221; She had already got her pics ready to show me. &#8220;No&#8221;, I said, and changed the subject immediately. I could visibly feel the temperature drop a couple of degrees, but I carried on my conversation as if I didn&#8217;t notice. And I didn&#8217;t care. Sweet!</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastyne</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2008/11/25/childfree-and-its-not-up-for-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-14890</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been thinking about the following response (after being married for 3 years now): &quot;Oh, what you mean, &lt;i&gt;with him&lt;/i&gt;? Oh no, I&#039;m still waiting for the right guy!&quot;

I absolutely HATE it when people tell me that I should have a child because once you have it you&#039;ll fall in love with it and all that. THAT is not the point! No child should be brought into this life as an experiment. What if you still don&#039;t want one? You probably do love the kid, but there will be times that you will shout in his face that &quot;Why on EARTH did I have you in the first place?! I never wanted kids!&quot; No child should ever hear those words, and people who do WANT to have kids say a lot of nasty things to their kids, imagine what one of us would say if we just decided to &quot;give it a go&quot;? I love my children too much to have them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about the following response (after being married for 3 years now): &#8220;Oh, what you mean, <i>with him</i>? Oh no, I&#8217;m still waiting for the right guy!&#8221;</p>
<p>I absolutely HATE it when people tell me that I should have a child because once you have it you&#8217;ll fall in love with it and all that. THAT is not the point! No child should be brought into this life as an experiment. What if you still don&#8217;t want one? You probably do love the kid, but there will be times that you will shout in his face that &#8220;Why on EARTH did I have you in the first place?! I never wanted kids!&#8221; No child should ever hear those words, and people who do WANT to have kids say a lot of nasty things to their kids, imagine what one of us would say if we just decided to &#8220;give it a go&#8221;? I love my children too much to have them.</p>
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		<title>By: RMS</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2008/11/25/childfree-and-its-not-up-for-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-14879</link>
		<dc:creator>RMS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are some wonderful comments here. I especially liked this from Irishgirl: &quot;Has anyone ever noticed that you’ll never be old enough to know what you want if what you want is different from what society tells you?&quot; Man, that is so true! I&#039;m in my mid 40s and I still get people responding as if I don&#039;t know what I want. Usually when I get the kid question, I answer &quot;God, no!&quot; very emphatically and with great relief. It pretty much shocks them into shutting up. If not, I can go on with &quot;why would I want to do that?&quot; and look at them like they&#039;re crazy.

Bravewolf, your comment totally cracked me up! &quot;You can leave them at home for hours alone, you can train them not to whine and when they’re teenagers, they die. *sweet smile*&quot; 

I may just have to steal that one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some wonderful comments here. I especially liked this from Irishgirl: &#8220;Has anyone ever noticed that you’ll never be old enough to know what you want if what you want is different from what society tells you?&#8221; Man, that is so true! I&#8217;m in my mid 40s and I still get people responding as if I don&#8217;t know what I want. Usually when I get the kid question, I answer &#8220;God, no!&#8221; very emphatically and with great relief. It pretty much shocks them into shutting up. If not, I can go on with &#8220;why would I want to do that?&#8221; and look at them like they&#8217;re crazy.</p>
<p>Bravewolf, your comment totally cracked me up! &#8220;You can leave them at home for hours alone, you can train them not to whine and when they’re teenagers, they die. *sweet smile*&#8221; </p>
<p>I may just have to steal that one!</p>
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		<title>By: Anne-Marie</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2008/11/25/childfree-and-its-not-up-for-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-14875</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne-Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 01:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m tempted these days to say, &quot;God, no, I&#039;m afraid the dog would eat it. He gets into everything we don&#039;t safely put away.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m tempted these days to say, &#8220;God, no, I&#8217;m afraid the dog would eat it. He gets into everything we don&#8217;t safely put away.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2008/11/25/childfree-and-its-not-up-for-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-14874</link>
		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Kids give you something to look forward to at the end of a hard day.”

Yeah, five hours of screaming, tantrums and bullshit. Give me two cats and a bottle of wine instead, thx!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Kids give you something to look forward to at the end of a hard day.”</p>
<p>Yeah, five hours of screaming, tantrums and bullshit. Give me two cats and a bottle of wine instead, thx!</p>
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		<title>By: Thomma Lyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomma Lyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s an icky, passive-aggressive bingo I get from Mom regularly:  &quot;Well, I&#039;ve always known you don&#039;t want a family.  At least.... not the &lt;strong&gt;&lt;i&gt;special&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; kind.&quot; (Hubby and I have four cats.)

And one of her favorites is &quot;But &lt;i&gt;most&lt;/i&gt; women want children...&quot;  Ha.  She should have learned a long time ago that the &quot;most people&quot; argument has no effect on me whatsoever, still she repeats it incessantly as though she were a parrot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an icky, passive-aggressive bingo I get from Mom regularly:  &#8220;Well, I&#8217;ve always known you don&#8217;t want a family.  At least&#8230;. not the <strong><i>special</i></strong> kind.&#8221; (Hubby and I have four cats.)</p>
<p>And one of her favorites is &#8220;But <i>most</i> women want children&#8230;&#8221;  Ha.  She should have learned a long time ago that the &#8220;most people&#8221; argument has no effect on me whatsoever, still she repeats it incessantly as though she were a parrot.</p>
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		<title>By: Lurker</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2008/11/25/childfree-and-its-not-up-for-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-14870</link>
		<dc:creator>Lurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since i am sometimes asked about my opinion in matters concerning children, I usually go with the &quot;cowards&quot; solution when I say: &quot;I do not have kids by myself....(and here comes the best part)...at least not yet...&quot;. 

There is maybe not much respect in such reply, but I never follow up the topic even if I sometimes get a bingo or two. 

Earlier on I also even &quot;admitted&quot; becomming a little tired of all the personal time I got since I have no children...and that its not unlikely I would myself fall into the parent-trap one day. 

If people wants to believe the &quot;crap&quot; I serve them so fine with me. Because up to now I am still going strong since the snip nearly 4,5 years ago. 

Just as note. I truely do not mind children in the right doses and also interact well with many parented people. But I also like to cook sometimes without planning to become the chef. 

Great post Britgirl, same with comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since i am sometimes asked about my opinion in matters concerning children, I usually go with the &#8220;cowards&#8221; solution when I say: &#8220;I do not have kids by myself&#8230;.(and here comes the best part)&#8230;at least not yet&#8230;&#8221;. </p>
<p>There is maybe not much respect in such reply, but I never follow up the topic even if I sometimes get a bingo or two. </p>
<p>Earlier on I also even &#8220;admitted&#8221; becomming a little tired of all the personal time I got since I have no children&#8230;and that its not unlikely I would myself fall into the parent-trap one day. </p>
<p>If people wants to believe the &#8220;crap&#8221; I serve them so fine with me. Because up to now I am still going strong since the snip nearly 4,5 years ago. </p>
<p>Just as note. I truely do not mind children in the right doses and also interact well with many parented people. But I also like to cook sometimes without planning to become the chef. </p>
<p>Great post Britgirl, same with comments!</p>
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		<title>By: Bravewolf</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2008/11/25/childfree-and-its-not-up-for-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-14869</link>
		<dc:creator>Bravewolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clueless person:  Why don&#039;t you want kids?

Me: Oh, I&#039;d rather have dogs.  You can leave them at home for hours alone, you can train them not to whine and when they&#039;re teenagers, they die.  *sweet smile*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clueless person:  Why don&#8217;t you want kids?</p>
<p>Me: Oh, I&#8217;d rather have dogs.  You can leave them at home for hours alone, you can train them not to whine and when they&#8217;re teenagers, they die.  *sweet smile*</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisOH</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2008/11/25/childfree-and-its-not-up-for-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-14868</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisOH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since this thread deals with people&#039;s reactions to childfreedom, I thought I&#039;d share a little list of typical &quot;bingoes&quot; I get from people:

&quot;But isn&#039;t your time running out?&quot;  (I&#039;m 38, my wife is 40)

&quot;Oh, there are a lot of people older than you who are having kids!&quot;

&quot;Kids give you something to look forward to at the end of a hard day.&quot;

&quot;It&#039;s just what normal people do -- everyone else does it and enjoys it.&quot;

&quot;Don&#039;t you want a son to play sports with, and go to his games, etc. etc.?&quot;

&quot;Your family name will die out!&quot;  (I&#039;m an only child.)

&quot;Once you held your new baby, all your objections would go away!&quot;

&quot;It&#039;s all worth it when they hug you and tell you they love you.&quot;

&quot;I/my sister/brother/friend/whoever didn&#039;t want kids either at first, but now I/they have them and love being a parent!&quot;

There&#039;s probably more, I&#039;m sure, if I thought longer and harder about it.  :)  Britgirl, I think you kept a list of these bingoes, didn&#039;t you?  If so, feel free to add any of these that apply! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since this thread deals with people&#8217;s reactions to childfreedom, I thought I&#8217;d share a little list of typical &#8220;bingoes&#8221; I get from people:</p>
<p>&#8220;But isn&#8217;t your time running out?&#8221;  (I&#8217;m 38, my wife is 40)</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh, there are a lot of people older than you who are having kids!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Kids give you something to look forward to at the end of a hard day.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s just what normal people do &#8212; everyone else does it and enjoys it.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Don&#8217;t you want a son to play sports with, and go to his games, etc. etc.?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Your family name will die out!&#8221;  (I&#8217;m an only child.)</p>
<p>&#8220;Once you held your new baby, all your objections would go away!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s all worth it when they hug you and tell you they love you.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I/my sister/brother/friend/whoever didn&#8217;t want kids either at first, but now I/they have them and love being a parent!&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s probably more, I&#8217;m sure, if I thought longer and harder about it.  <img src='http://thebritgirl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Britgirl, I think you kept a list of these bingoes, didn&#8217;t you?  If so, feel free to add any of these that apply! <img src='http://thebritgirl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ChrisOH</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2008/11/25/childfree-and-its-not-up-for-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-14867</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisOH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mira:

Isn&#039;t it amazing how the subject of childbearing (or lack thereof) is an area where some people don&#039;t think there&#039;s any question too personal to ask?  They might shy away from talk of politics, religion, or money, but your sexual activity and the results of said activity are fair game for questioning and criticism! 

Personally, I really don&#039;t care who is pregnant, how many kids they have, etc...it just isn&#039;t usually pertinent to any conversation I might have with them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mira:</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it amazing how the subject of childbearing (or lack thereof) is an area where some people don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any question too personal to ask?  They might shy away from talk of politics, religion, or money, but your sexual activity and the results of said activity are fair game for questioning and criticism! </p>
<p>Personally, I really don&#8217;t care who is pregnant, how many kids they have, etc&#8230;it just isn&#8217;t usually pertinent to any conversation I might have with them!</p>
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		<title>By: Mira</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2008/11/25/childfree-and-its-not-up-for-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-14865</link>
		<dc:creator>Mira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If people I don&#039;t know/know well ask if we have kids, I say &quot;YEP!&quot; and whip out the pictures of my cats and start telling stories. It usually scares them away.

Also, I&#039;ve always been, hrm, shall we say &quot;fluffy&quot;, so whenever someone eyes my tummy and says something like &quot;Oh, does someone have a bun in the oven?&quot; I just reply, &quot;Nope, I&#039;m just fat, thanks for reminding me.&quot; They usually get embarrassed and leave or change the subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If people I don&#8217;t know/know well ask if we have kids, I say &#8220;YEP!&#8221; and whip out the pictures of my cats and start telling stories. It usually scares them away.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;ve always been, hrm, shall we say &#8220;fluffy&#8221;, so whenever someone eyes my tummy and says something like &#8220;Oh, does someone have a bun in the oven?&#8221; I just reply, &#8220;Nope, I&#8217;m just fat, thanks for reminding me.&#8221; They usually get embarrassed and leave or change the subject.</p>
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		<title>By: EmmaSteinfeld</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2008/11/25/childfree-and-its-not-up-for-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-14863</link>
		<dc:creator>EmmaSteinfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually had someone comment on my blog that professing one&#039;s childfree status was a &quot;taunt.&quot;  I asked him how it could be a taunt, but he never responded to that question.  It seems to me that it would only be a taunt if someone who was not childfree regretted his/her decision and wished s/he had made the childfree decision, as well.  I don&#039;t think you can taunt someone with something s/he doesn&#039;t want or doesn&#039;t miss having.  Can you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually had someone comment on my blog that professing one&#8217;s childfree status was a &#8220;taunt.&#8221;  I asked him how it could be a taunt, but he never responded to that question.  It seems to me that it would only be a taunt if someone who was not childfree regretted his/her decision and wished s/he had made the childfree decision, as well.  I don&#8217;t think you can taunt someone with something s/he doesn&#8217;t want or doesn&#8217;t miss having.  Can you?</p>
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		<title>By: og217</title>
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		<dc:creator>og217</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think, especially to losers with teenagers, a great answer to &quot;Aren&#039;t you afraid you&#039;ll  be lonely and alone when you&#039;re old?&quot; an excellent reply is &quot;Aren&#039;t YOU aftraid you&#039;ll be lonely and alone when you&#039;re old?  I&#039;m ready and prepared for my old age.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think, especially to losers with teenagers, a great answer to &#8220;Aren&#8217;t you afraid you&#8217;ll  be lonely and alone when you&#8217;re old?&#8221; an excellent reply is &#8220;Aren&#8217;t YOU aftraid you&#8217;ll be lonely and alone when you&#8217;re old?  I&#8217;m ready and prepared for my old age.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Ogre</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2008/11/25/childfree-and-its-not-up-for-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-14861</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. Ogre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had some bint demanding to know at a wedding (we were sitting at the same table and I never met her before) why I didn&#039;t want kids and she wanted to convert me. I was polite but firm. Had I not been at a wedding, I would have torn her a new one. Next time, I&#039;ll ask them to justify why they have kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had some bint demanding to know at a wedding (we were sitting at the same table and I never met her before) why I didn&#8217;t want kids and she wanted to convert me. I was polite but firm. Had I not been at a wedding, I would have torn her a new one. Next time, I&#8217;ll ask them to justify why they have kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Crumpet</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2008/11/25/childfree-and-its-not-up-for-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-14859</link>
		<dc:creator>Crumpet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What gets me are the parents who take the position of &quot; You don&#039;t want kids, fine, but there&#039;s no need to be constantly advertising how you&#039;re childfree or that you don&#039;t want any. Nobody cares&quot;.

Well, we can all testify to the fact that plenty of people, most of them complete strangers, do seem to care. A lot. To an unhealthy degree even. They also don&#039;t turn that question inward and ask why parents need to advertise to the world that their kid is an honor roll student or that their kids and their money go to Penn State, as if anyone else really cares about that. They aren&#039;t privy to all of the times we have been bullied or cornered because, as parents, no one has ever done that to them so they cannot relate to where the defensiveness comes from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What gets me are the parents who take the position of &#8221; You don&#8217;t want kids, fine, but there&#8217;s no need to be constantly advertising how you&#8217;re childfree or that you don&#8217;t want any. Nobody cares&#8221;.</p>
<p>Well, we can all testify to the fact that plenty of people, most of them complete strangers, do seem to care. A lot. To an unhealthy degree even. They also don&#8217;t turn that question inward and ask why parents need to advertise to the world that their kid is an honor roll student or that their kids and their money go to Penn State, as if anyone else really cares about that. They aren&#8217;t privy to all of the times we have been bullied or cornered because, as parents, no one has ever done that to them so they cannot relate to where the defensiveness comes from.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2008/11/25/childfree-and-its-not-up-for-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-14858</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband gets this more than I do, because he used to work in a service industry where he was called to people&#039;s houses every day and they invariably asked the kid question, and sometimes got in his face when he said we aren&#039;t having any. Everyone we&#039;re with regularly is pretty clear on the matter, but whenever we meet someone new who feels they HAVE to ask, I simply say, &quot;No, we&#039;re not having kids. We&#039;re not interested in them.&quot; If they press it, I tell them I could go get my list of reasons (I think I&#039;m up to number 138) why I do not want children, and I rattle off a few that come to mind. Usually, if we continue talking about anything at all, they&#039;ll eventually slip up and say something that makes me reply, &quot;See?? That&#039;s why we don&#039;t have kids!&quot;
Maybe I&#039;m too confrontational, but I really don&#039;t mind when people are offended by my useless womb. I know that, for the most part, they are just threatened by the idea that anyone could possibly be happy outside of society&#039;s conventional roles. And I know that, deep down, they are all wishing they had made the same decision we did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband gets this more than I do, because he used to work in a service industry where he was called to people&#8217;s houses every day and they invariably asked the kid question, and sometimes got in his face when he said we aren&#8217;t having any. Everyone we&#8217;re with regularly is pretty clear on the matter, but whenever we meet someone new who feels they HAVE to ask, I simply say, &#8220;No, we&#8217;re not having kids. We&#8217;re not interested in them.&#8221; If they press it, I tell them I could go get my list of reasons (I think I&#8217;m up to number 138) why I do not want children, and I rattle off a few that come to mind. Usually, if we continue talking about anything at all, they&#8217;ll eventually slip up and say something that makes me reply, &#8220;See?? That&#8217;s why we don&#8217;t have kids!&#8221;<br />
Maybe I&#8217;m too confrontational, but I really don&#8217;t mind when people are offended by my useless womb. I know that, for the most part, they are just threatened by the idea that anyone could possibly be happy outside of society&#8217;s conventional roles. And I know that, deep down, they are all wishing they had made the same decision we did.</p>
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		<title>By: Irishgirl</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2008/11/25/childfree-and-its-not-up-for-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-14857</link>
		<dc:creator>Irishgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m young, so most people don&#039;t give me the question yet. Although I have had some of the teenage mothers and those in their early twenties, both married and single, in my area telling me they pity me and that I&#039;ll be old and alone some day. Mostly I just smile and walk away, but sometimes I tell them what I think, which is that, since they&#039;ve closed so many doors in their lives with their choice, they can say what they like about consigning themselves to lifelong poverty, welfare whoredom and denying their children so many opportunities in life. It won&#039;t affect me except it&#039;s annoying that my taxes will be subsidising their lives.

But I have had people (not my parents, praise god) asking me how many children I want, and talking about WHEN, not IF, I get married and have children. I simply tell them I&#039;m childfree, politely, because I know that it&#039;s important that those surrounding me see that the breeders are the rude assholes. Most are at least polite about it, but if they say I&#039;m too young to know, I point out that I wouldn&#039;t be too young in their eyes to know if I wanted them. Apart from a few spluttered &quot;Yeah, but, but...that&#039;s different&quot;, most people shut up after that.

Has anyone ever noticed that you&#039;ll never be old enough to know what you want if what you want is different from what society tells you? On the other hand, you&#039;ll never be too young to know what you want, if what you want is what society approves of. That&#039;s why a thirty year old woman asking for a sterilisation will be told she&#039;ll change her mind, but a four year old girl playing with her dolls and saying she wants to be a mammy when she grows up will be indulged.

Sorry, this is really long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m young, so most people don&#8217;t give me the question yet. Although I have had some of the teenage mothers and those in their early twenties, both married and single, in my area telling me they pity me and that I&#8217;ll be old and alone some day. Mostly I just smile and walk away, but sometimes I tell them what I think, which is that, since they&#8217;ve closed so many doors in their lives with their choice, they can say what they like about consigning themselves to lifelong poverty, welfare whoredom and denying their children so many opportunities in life. It won&#8217;t affect me except it&#8217;s annoying that my taxes will be subsidising their lives.</p>
<p>But I have had people (not my parents, praise god) asking me how many children I want, and talking about WHEN, not IF, I get married and have children. I simply tell them I&#8217;m childfree, politely, because I know that it&#8217;s important that those surrounding me see that the breeders are the rude assholes. Most are at least polite about it, but if they say I&#8217;m too young to know, I point out that I wouldn&#8217;t be too young in their eyes to know if I wanted them. Apart from a few spluttered &#8220;Yeah, but, but&#8230;that&#8217;s different&#8221;, most people shut up after that.</p>
<p>Has anyone ever noticed that you&#8217;ll never be old enough to know what you want if what you want is different from what society tells you? On the other hand, you&#8217;ll never be too young to know what you want, if what you want is what society approves of. That&#8217;s why a thirty year old woman asking for a sterilisation will be told she&#8217;ll change her mind, but a four year old girl playing with her dolls and saying she wants to be a mammy when she grows up will be indulged.</p>
<p>Sorry, this is really long.</p>
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		<title>By: Dorian Gray</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2008/11/25/childfree-and-its-not-up-for-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-14855</link>
		<dc:creator>Dorian Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About a year ago at a party I was asked by some ignorant oaf &quot;So, when are you going to get pregnant then?&quot;  I was very taken aback.  Shocked in fact, as I truly thought people had more tact than that.  I replied and said that I had no intention of ever having children.  He then came back with &quot;But you&#039;d make a great mother!&quot;.  This guy doesn&#039;t even know my first name, he just knew that I been married for almost a year.  I told him that having children would be the biggest waste of not only my time or my life, but also my intelligence as I have so much more to give than glibly following society.

He shut up after that, but I did feel a twinge of guilt for perhaps being slightly nasty.  That&#039;s a response that seems to fell most people.  I&#039;ll keep using it for as long as it does!  That said, I&#039;ve had many a failing conversation over how there is much more to life than having children, and it always appears that few people can realise or understand that.  Sometimes I despair :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About a year ago at a party I was asked by some ignorant oaf &#8220;So, when are you going to get pregnant then?&#8221;  I was very taken aback.  Shocked in fact, as I truly thought people had more tact than that.  I replied and said that I had no intention of ever having children.  He then came back with &#8220;But you&#8217;d make a great mother!&#8221;.  This guy doesn&#8217;t even know my first name, he just knew that I been married for almost a year.  I told him that having children would be the biggest waste of not only my time or my life, but also my intelligence as I have so much more to give than glibly following society.</p>
<p>He shut up after that, but I did feel a twinge of guilt for perhaps being slightly nasty.  That&#8217;s a response that seems to fell most people.  I&#8217;ll keep using it for as long as it does!  That said, I&#8217;ve had many a failing conversation over how there is much more to life than having children, and it always appears that few people can realise or understand that.  Sometimes I despair <img src='http://thebritgirl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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