Mother of octuplets has six other children
I’m not quite sure where to begin with this story. And I’d normally have posted this on Monday, however I thought it couldn’t wait.
While the media swoon (as usual) over this latest multiple birth “miracle” to me it seems beyond ridiculous. You don’t have to be childfree to feel that either. Not the fact that 8 babies were born – it’s nothing to do with them. They are extremely rare.
No, what’s ridiculous is that this mother who
- is single, with the stability of the husband being in doubt (I’m not sure whether the husband referred to is the grandmother’s husband or the mother’s. A little confusing)
- is apparently without two brain cells to rub together
- is selfish and irresponsible
- has apparently just declared bankruptcy, so… let’s see now, won’t have money
- lives with her grandmother, so hasn’t got her own place
and…
has six OTHER children ranging from 7 to 2 years old…
…had fertility treatment. W.T.F?
She refused to have the number of embryos reduced when she knew she was carrying multiples. So that rules out the surprise factor. But WHY in heaven’s name was she even GIVEN fertility treatment in the first place? She certainly had no problems popping out kids at will. She clearly wasn’t infertile, so why was she even a candidate for IVF? The clinic that that gave it to her should be held accountable. And maybe it’s time for the money-grubbing fertility industry to be investigated.
How did she even afford IVF? She certainly appears to have no money to look after 6 kids, let alone 14. I presume the already beleaguered tax payer is going to step up to the plate… it’s not as if they can refuse.
More mind-boggling details:
The team of 46 doctors and nurses who delivered the octuplets. 46!
“During the seven weeks, a team of 46 physicians, nurses and other staff members prepared for the births. When they started the delivery Monday, they were in for a surprise.”
But hey – perhaps this was a well-thought out plan! Maybe she’s going to get an exclusive story – and sell it for thousands, no millions! She could sell their pictures – what’s good for Brangelina is good for her too, right? After all, Brangie only had twins. Then she could become “independently wealthy” overnight – and have even more babies! Ugh.
To those who say people have the “right” to have any number of children they want…as usual there is zero mention of responsibility -and zero consideration of exactly what kind of life these children (all 14 of them) will have – with no apparent means of support. What a surprise.
I feel for the children – and the grandmother. Hope they have several villages standing at the ready to raise those children.
The mother is asking for privacy. I bet she is. She won’t be silent for long though –
In her written statement delivered by Dr. Karen Maples of the Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center in California, the woman who delivered eight babies in five minutes said she would soon make public the details of her “miraculous experience.”
But of course she will.
Beyond ridiculous and beyond irresponsible on so many levels.
Edit: More difficult questions arising – looks like she had multiple IVF treatments:
Over to you.
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I’ve read a few more/different details:
The woman is 33 years old.
She lives with her parents in a three bedroom home.
Her father, who is from Iraq, will be returning to Iraq because he can make more money there than here.
She worked in a fertility clinic.
There’s no mention of a husband/significant other, but some reports have posited that all 14 children have the same sperm donor.
The whole thing is absolutely ridiculous. Beyond ridiculous. It takes being irresponsible to an unfathomable level.
I can’t help thinking that the attention that the Duggars have been getting, along with some other large families that have been given television shows, had something to do with this. Having a problem making money? All you have to do is have an insane number of kids and you become an instant media star, getting paid for interviews, pictures, and maybe even getting your own television show. Because, you know, what’s wrong with whoring out your kids for money and fame?
Serious question: Does this woman have some sort of mental illness?
For anyone interested, there’s an expected slugfest going on at the New York Times “roomfordebate” blog re: this topic. It doesn’t seem that most people realize that she already has six kids. Yikes! My favorite argument is when someone says that God created IVF so it is God’s will if people become pregnant using it. Wow!
I had to laugh at the post that said if God wanted women to have litters he would have given them 8 breasts. Amen to that!
http://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/27/eight-is-enough/?apage=9#comments
Check out post #299 of page 12, re: the truth about IVF.
http://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/27/eight-is-enough/?apage=12#comments
They used to say that happiness you must search for within yourself…
Insanity can be expressed in many ways. In this case: Everybody judge for themself.
This is just ridiculous. I have been saying for years that IVF and all other ARTs should be banned, and stories like this reinforce my belief. Women aren’t designed to shit out litters, plain and simple.
Scratch below the surface of the happy-clappy, oooh-it’s-a-mirakull media representation and the harsh reality is very different. It’s been well-documented that multiple pregnancies are higher-risk for mothers and babies, and place families under relentless pressure. Let’s face it, society places an inordinate value on producing “one of your own” (never mind the thousands of kids who are languishing in the system and could do with a loving home) and most people see having kids as a right, not a privilege. There is money to be made from fertility treatments. I’m a nursing student and one ob/gyn told me straight out “women are willing to pay a lot of money to conceive”.
I also have to wonder about the mental status of someone who already had 6 kids and took fertility drugs to have more. And whoever was responsible for allowing her to have those drugs should be held partially responsible for the entire mess.
Quick update: the UK’s Daily Mail newspaper has named the woman and how’s this for irony? She’s studying for a psychology degree! *shakes head*
“its so different when they are your own” (bingo=I ONLY care about my own kids).
Hey look on the bright side – now I’m covered for not ‘helping’ keep the population going….next time that Bingoe come’s up I’ll just point at that litter plus her 2 year old twins plus the 4 other children all in one house. I’m not procreating because she already took care of my quota.
Seriously though the thought makes me ill. Those poor kids – I mean the ones already there. The ones who’ve been through losing their house to bankruptcy, living with grandparents (very few grandparents I knew lived on a high income in a large and well-stocked house), single-mom drama as the media is implying the father is not in the picture. As if they were headed for big things before their chances just got split again 8 another ways. Go to school in a new outfit? Probably not. Your friends are going to a movie? Sorry hunny number 5 just used up our last diaper…we gotta get more formula anyway. Unless this woman has an incredible resources and friends to help out it will be miraculous for any of these kids to grow up with a healthy mental outlook on life. I am imagining resentment, feelings of lonliness from the older kids who aren’t as ‘miraculous’ as the new ones, not having enough stuff…food, clothes, attention etc. :::Sigh::: On the other hand maybe it will all be ok, they will all be perfect citizens and they’ll live happily ever after. I think I’m going to look into moving out of the country. I hear Europe has a problem with not enough kids….that sounds perfect.
I have no words about the utter stupidity of this woman’s actions. While people have the ‘right’ to having as many children as they want, they fully disregard the responsibility of having those litters.
A single mom with 14 kids. And let me guess, she’s going to also ask for ‘donations’ to help her raise that frankenlitter? Since when are the taxpayers supposed to subsidize someone else’s lack of forethought?
I don’t buy that she ‘didn’t think’ that all of the embryos would take. I do recall seeing an article that she refused to reduce when she found out that they did take.
Lack of responsibility should not make news, should not be rewarded by attention. Those kids may well end up in foster care because there is no way, physically, that a single mother can raise 14 with help from grandparents.
This story has left me speechless with increasing incomprehension and indignation all week!
Since it’s clear the family is on welfare already, maybe the irresponsible medical staff who made this happen should be the one to pay for these kids’ needs… not the other taxpayers!
Boxermom: yesterday in a show on French TV someone was saying how France has the highest birth rate in Europe, and then went on saying it’s also the country where people use the most antidepressant drugs. I couldn’t help but chuckle and think there might be a link ;o)
From what I’ve heard, she even lives with her mother in a three bedroom house. Three bedrooms for the 16 of them!!! Is she going to stack the cribs on top of each other or something? You can say a lot about the Duggar family, but at least they had the brains to get a place big enough so they won’t have to take separate turns breathing…
I just read on Yahoo News that she has been obsessed with having kids since she was a teenager! WTF!! How much you want to bet the Duggers are her heros! Another reason why the Duggers and Jon & Kate+8 need to be taken off TV.
The truly sad thing is that that these premature, low birth weight babies will all be at risk for lifelong health problems, including cerebral palsy and learning disabilities, heart problems, anemia and on and on. No matter how much she “loves babies” and is obsessed with kids, she had a responsibility to think about the quality of life of her children. It’s not all about what she wants emotionally/ psychologically. Sometimes in this life, you don’t get everything that you want. Recognizing that is called being an adult . If your “wants” negatively affect other dependent humans then it’s time to grow up and deal.
As the mother of a premature, learning disabled child pointed out in an article I read, is this woman prepared to care for a child or children who may never be capable of living independently should, god forbid, they not turn out to be perfect bundles? I question her mental stability from the get-go and I’m surprised the doctors who were managing her care didn’t.
According to CNN, medical ethicists in the U.S. are raising major red flags over this story as there are guidelines as to how many embryos should be implanted which were clearly not followed here. Of course, the pro-life folks think reduction of the embryos, which this woman was encouraged to have, but refused, is equivalent to abortion. By all means, far better to bring a disabled child into the world especially when you have no money to care for it/them. The whole lot offends common sense.
A final note, someone quoted an article in the LA Times saying that the mother was paid to do this. I guess only time will tell. If that is indeed the case, I guess baby love wasn’t the primary motivator. Yuck.
Just wanted to add, I agree with Swissbarb. I think that the medical “professionals” responsible for helping this woman actualize her baby obsession should be court ordered to pay for their medical care/maintenance for life.
In the U.S. people who keep more animals in their homes than they can properly care for are called hoarders. Would this woman be considered a baby hoarder? I feel sorry for the oldest of her previous six children. Guess who will become a babysitter/caretaker at the ripe age of 7!
If this was my empire, this crackpot would be locked in a padded room and forcibly sterilized so she can never breed like a rat on the public dollar ever again.
apparently
THE single mother of octuplets born in California last week is seeking $2m (£1.37m) from media interviews and commercial sponsorship to help pay the cost of raising the children.
Nadya Suleman, 33, plans a career as a television childcare expert after it emerged last week that she already had six children before giving birth on Monday. She now has 14 below the age of eight.
Although still confined to an LA hospital bed, she intends to talk to two influential television hosts this week — media mogul Oprah Winfrey, and Diane Sawyer, who presents Good Morning America.
Her family has told agents she needs cash from deals such as nappy sponsorship — she will get through 250 a week in the next few months — and the agents will gauge public reaction to her story.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article5627531.ece
Today’s update and, sure enough, she wants Oprah to cough up a coupla million dollars. Absolutely f*cking shameless….
Today’s update and, sure enough, she wants Oprah to cough up a coupla million dollars. Absolutely f*cking shameless….
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article5627531.ece
I would not be surprised if she started seeing $$ signs before she had the IVF. No wonder she didn’t want reduction. She was probably thinking what a great story it would make…mind-boggling in fact. The media would be swooning and every one would be talking…. exactly what’s happening. TV appearances, book deals, you name it she’s probably already thought of (and planned) it. All in the name of “needing it for upkeep of the children.”
She wants to be a “childcare expert” does she? No doubt she’ll be giving tips in her new book, which is surely being written as we speak. I think she probably needs psychological help.
Sickening and shameless indeed. The plan for those innocent kids’ exploitation started long ago… and at the hands of their mother. They have no say.
If Oprah et a. have any sense they will refuse to join this circus. I’m not holding my breath on that one, since ratings and money rather than sense are going to rule.
I wondered why I was getting so many visits from Feministing.
http://feministing.com/archives/013487.html
true boxermom, she has taken care of heaps of quotas…honestly this is too ridiculous for words, I feel bad even talking about it…she doesnt deserve the attention really.
Never mind the risks she imposed on the poor kids who didnt ask to be born. I imagine there must be some suffering and pain they experience being born so early.
No doubt there is an element of this being some sort of medical experiment as well.
I think Lee is soooo right she is a baby hoarder which is just pathological.
There really needs to be some sort of a lisencing process for breeding. You need to be screened to adopt a stupid poodle, you should definitely pass some basic litmus test to raise children. And as someone said, how the hell did this welfare trash even GET this IVF treatment? It’s expensive, and this woman was already a deadbeat with an illegitimate litter? I think it’s absolutely ridiculous that tax payers have to pay for this nasty spawning and that THIS is a cause celebre and THIS is going to be what people are reading about, watching, and seeing on covers of magazines, as if this was an accomplishment. A single mother, living in a shack, a total loser with no money, and a screaming litter covered in snot and excrement – this is a great American success story? Seriously? We have a huge military which deserves individual recognition and maybe a higher pay for what they do, but instead we are going to lavish attention on someone who personifies everything gross in society – mooching, stupidity, poverty, bastard children, ignorance, lack of education, living like animals, deformity, defects, illness, and third-world life style. Unbelievable.
Talking of the selfishness of this woman, there was an article on the BBC today about how selfish parents are ruining the childhoods of British children – http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7861762.stm . I notice that this kind of selfishness (excessive breeding) seems not to be mentioned. This story of octuplets seems to be a case of a woman seeking some kind of rather deranged personal success. I find it gross, sickening and perhaps even bordering on immoral. She cannot possibly supply each of her 14 children with enough attention, or at least the amount of attention that “experts” would tell the world that children need. I know a mother who couldn’t cope with two children but still had a third. She can’t cope with three and is shortly to have a fourth. It just seems to be such irresponsibility on a massive scale.
I find it even more disgusting that she’s now admitting that she wants at least $2m to help her through the first few months. If some media outlet are ridiculous enough to pay this woman that amount of money, what happens when the money runs out? Kids taken into care? Oh no, it’s more likely the story will be further sold off to make more money. I am completely lost for words over most of this story.
apparently she used to work at a ivf clinic, at least thats what people are saying
The woman is lobbying to get on Oprah, provided she is paid a couple of million for her appearance. Apparently, she believes she is some sort of expert on parenting. That can’t be, since she already has six kids that she can’t seem to handle without her mama and daddy footing the bills.
Her mother had news for her, however. Grandma said, “Enough is enough”, and she won’t be there when that woman shows up at home with the eight babies. I don’t blame her. That woman has inconvenienced her mother and father enough with the six kids that are already at home. I wish more people would take stands against their shiftless, irresponsible teen and adult children who drop babies all over without thought.
I’ve read some comments stating that we are entering murky waters dictating/legislating the number of children a woman can have. She didn’t have these children on her own, she conceived with medical assistance. The issue at hand is that a medical professional implanting embryos takes an oath to do no harm. He/she has the right and responsibility to refuse to participate in a situation that will put the mother and children at risk. That is why there are guidelines for this type of procedure.
Beyond the fact that she already has six children, including one set of twins, and one autistic child, dreaming about a financial windfall via a deal with some media outlet, after the fact, shows a disconnect from reality on its face.
If this mother cannot properly provide for these children then there ARE laws where they will be removed from her care by the state, and then we will all be responsible for them. Wouldn’t it make more sense to determine her competency BEFORE others lives are negatively affected? Her situation should have been a red flag for any moderately ethical doctor.
I don’t want to burst any balloons about self-actualization or supremacy of individual rights, but we aren’t alone on the planet. We are all responsible to one another in the grand scheme of things. It looks like some countries are already evaluating population growth and how it’s affecting the planet. Bravo, I say!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/jul/11/greenpolitics.children
@Lee – I think the comments on supposed legislation re: how many children a woman can have are misplaced. The speed with which some have jumped on that particular argument is very interesting and with it comes a shifting of responsibility from the woman to whomever gave her the fertility treatment.
I’m not saying they don’t carry responsibility – they do, absolutely.
She should never have been given the treatment. Who knows, maybe she lied about her kids to the IVF clinic, who never bothered to check it out. Maybe she didn’t and they colluded. Since she worked in an IVF clinic, She probably knew how it all worked. And given that her other 6 kids were also born from IVF… it’s clear that she knew what she was doing. She also refused selective abortion.
I will go as far as to say that the issue at hand is two-fold – an irresponsible, selfish woman, who seems not to care for the health and future of her children – all of them – and the IVF clinic who failed to refuse her the treatment in the first place (assuming she told the truth about her circumstances).
I think people who go on about rights, particularly in a case like this conveniently forget about responsibility that is the other side of that coin. Those 14 children (all under 7 years old will have a wretched life… unless they are taken into care. They are the ones I feel so sorry for. As you say, one way or another, society is going to be responsible for those children.
@Og17 -Unbelievable indeed. Every time I think of the whole sorry mess, it boggles my mind. I just cannot imagine anyone doing this accidentally, let alone on purpose.
@Hillari – some parent expert. Good on the grandmother for standing her ground. it might be hard for her not to be drawn into caring for them in some way though. Like OG_17 said, what a pity there isn’t some licensing system for people like this woman.
Hi britgirl: Exactly! The people carping about the right to bear children are forgetting that the rights of the mother shouldn’t trump the quality of life of the offspring and then the rights of the community, should she not be able to care for them. IMHO, if someone is not mentally competent then the argument of rights changes considerably.
I really don’t know the gory details of what is involved in this shake and bake IVF process, having no interest
, but maybe she did fix something up under the radar either through the clinic she worked at or with someone who worked there. Maybe the janitor sprayed her up using an empty bottle of Windex:O! From what I’ve read, doctors seem willing to happily take 25K in the U.S. per IVF cycle even when they cannot give good odds for success. However, it doesn’t seem like the woman had 25k laying around so something else must have been going on.
In NYC, there are condom-mobiles that travel to various low-income neighborhoods where the rate of teenage pregnancies is very high. They distribute birth control and educate about pregnancy. Yes these young women have the right and the ability to get pregnant, but as studies have shown a good many of these children become wards of the state (paid for by yours truly and dear husband) or are shuttled around from relative to relative. Without good parenting, as teens, the males typically end up on the streets, involved in crime and end up in prison and the girls end up right where their mother’s started. And the sad cycle continues. With rights come responsibility which many people, to your point, seem to ignore.
I know I’ve veered greatly from the child-free topic here and I apologize. I just read some posts on feministing that didn’t gel for me and I thought to comment on the rights/responsibility topic since they linked here.
Okay, I’ve thought way too much about this subject.
Signing off! Good night!
Isn’t a fundamental principle of law that you have the right to pursue happiness as ling as you do not infringe upon the rights of others? How is this woman not infringing? She will tax everyone else for her litter, her children will overwhelm the school system – twins, etc are supposed to be separated in school, in different classes. How the hell can THAT be done with 8 children in the same grade? She will cause a major disruption in shops, restaurants, communities, by showing up with a screeching mob of filthy, screaming, partially retarded brats that she will of course be helpless (despite her “expertize”) to control. Her children will be a health nightmare, passing and re-passing colds, lice, fleas and who knows what else between them selves in a hopeless circle, and then on to other children. Her home, if she were to ever have one, would be a wreck and an eye sore, ruining any community this sorry circus of locusts would land in. I don’t understand why her “right” to be disgusting trumps others’ rights to live in a nice neighborhood, send their kids to clean schools and hold on to their earnings. Blaming the doctors is a cop out. It is not their responsibility to do background investigations and its not fair to absolve an adult, although a stupid one. From what I understand, the woman is a US born Iraqi. Who on earth wants to be a doctor who says to an Iraqui woman what she needs to stop spawning in this PC climate? What doctor needs THAT lawsuit?
Here’s the latest from the NYTimes with various IVF docs weighing in on the question of ethics and who has the final responsibility.
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/03/questions-over-octuplets-multiply/?scp=1&sq=Nadya%20Suleman&st=cse
I don’t think a doctor would tell a woman of any race she needs to stop spawning but he should tell her of the health risks involved with multiple births and then refuse to implant so many embryos as there are ethical guidelines (not laws) in place for these procedures. She was young (under 35) why not implant two instead of 8? it seems clear that what she had done was not the norm or good practice, so in my mind the doctor shares responsibility. That’s not to say that given her kid obsession she wouldn’t have had one offs for the next decade given her track record.
The doctors at the hospital where she delivered told her that she should have a reduction so they did the right thing, but they didn’t implant her and she’s not saying who did.
There are unscrupulous doctors who will do anything for cash which is why so many in the IVF medical community are in an uproar because it makes them look bad. No one has yet identified her doctor which seems odd to me. I also read an article by an IVF specialist that stated that given the statistical survival rates of implanted embryos, she probably had more than 8 implanted. His guess was closer to 12 or 16. And the beat goes on….
Well, seems she might not be getting free handouts after all:
http://my.earthlink.net/article/nat?guid=20090203/4987dd60_3426_1335020090203948864917
Seems many baby product companies are steering clear of this circus.
What she did was completely irresponsible and whomever her IVF doctor was should be brought before a medical board.
I am of two minds… if the people are self sufficient and don’t depend on the public dole for any of the things they need for the children then I’m not going to interfere, although I really wonder why they aren’t taking on children that are already here. But I don’t think that litters of children, especially those spawned through invitro should be rewarded with freebies, welfare or otherwise (cars, houses, diapers). It’s like there is a slow moving trend towards Frankenlitters of babies with their parents depending on large companies to feed, shelter and clothe their kids because they were all born at the same time.
I think in this economy, it would be silly for any company to give out free products, and if they did, it would backfire with responsible paying customers who see that they are struggling while freeloaders get free stuff. I would not buy things from any company that rewarded welfare spawnings.
they arent getting stuff, a lot of companies are waiting to see if its good publicity, before donating. a lot of people are not happy with her.
the normal parents as why didnt they get stuff and she should, the CF well. but everyday people are getting angry at her disregard. just waiting for one of them to die then she can really cash in.
Obviously there’s nothing we can do legally about this; we don’t live in China, and even the Chinese government has officially given up on its ham-handed one child enforcement. However, we can certainly use public shaming to discourage people from pulling this kind of crap, and we can also try to make sure she doesn’t cash in on it as other parents of high order multiples have done in the past. If she can’t cash in, I predict the children will be given away or taken away at some point, and, frankly, at this point I think that’s the best possible outcome for them.
Amen Skoora!
Yes, the right to lifers never seem to address “quality” of life do they? Like the right wingers who don’t want the poor in Africa to have access to birth control and abortion. Why not let them die of cholera, or starvation! That’s the spirit!
Isn’t it ironic that we have to pay for other people’s children while simultaneously being judged and criticized for not having our own? What’s wrong with this picture?
It appears that the crazy cat lady is being inundated with offers if her publicist is to be believed. She just hasn’t received a “deal” that she is pleased with yet. Ooh, poor her!
Honestly, if I see one more television program being advertised in the U.S. glorifying gigantic families, I’ll never stop throwing up. As an American, I can say that based upon my experience in this culture, the day when my fellow citizens look around at how their choices impact the world as a whole is a LONG way off. Me, me, me, me and more me. Did I mention me? I wonder how they will feel when their heirs are wearing scuba suits to work after rising sea levels caused by human-generated global warming have turned coastal cities into the equivalent of Atlantis!
Welcome skoora.Too right. So I would expect that anything that dares to question that particular sacred cow would never get agreement. I can almost hear the howls of outrage…
@Lee – The strange thing is that those bent on having lots of kids only seem to think as far as themselves. They may spout on about carbon footprints, global warming et al, but when it comes to reducing things that directly impact it, such as having children, suddenly it’s unthinkable. As you say… Me. Me and more me as you say. They think recycling is all they need to do.
btw – the octuplet mother is apparently receiving lots of offers according to the BBC. She’s now “cherry picking” Don’t think she’s seen an offer that’t quite to her taste yet. Meanwhile, I saw a head line saying “Octomom is wonderful patient.”
Wow! I have watched this on TV and was so amazed. This woman is so lucky for having these children in one birth. But the question now if how would she be able to feed the babies? I guess everybody wants to give their kids a healthy living and a brighter future. But not to those parents who are just not thinking of the results of having several babies yet they are all suffering for the consequences since the earning are not enough to support the even the basic needs of the family.
Forgot to add that this is the number one most e-mailed article in the times today. Seems like a lot of people are interested in understanding whether or not children make a marriage happier or unhappier….
Hi Lee – Thanks for these links… I had people send them to me yesterday too
To keep this thread on topic I’m going to move the links… but stay tuned everyone – because the story is definitely worth blogging here for us all to share our views on.
Thanks again – and to anyone who finds an interesting link you think readers (or indeed myself) might be interested in, but that isn’t the immediate topic, don’t hestiate to send me the link via email at: thebritgirl at gmail dot com. I’ll share them in a blog post… several articles here are due to just that.
Cheers! BG
You’re welcome! I’m glad that you found them interesting. I get so much out of reading your blog, I just wanted to give something back. Thanks for your e-mail. I’m always keeping my eyes peeled!
Lee
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-octuplets-disability,0,4943325.story
It seems like she’s perfected getting money for nothing. I smell a scam artist. Is there a scamming gene that you can pass on to your children?
Looks like the Today Show has scored the first interview with the mom which will air on Monday.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/29038814/
According to the Today Show’s website, all of her pregnancies were from IVF and the sperm donor is a friend. Also, she attributes her obsession with children to the fact that she was an only child and had a lonely and dysfunctional childhood.
Yeah, join the club.
Here’s my question: what does a person get out of 14 children that she cannot get out of 6? Or 2 for that matter? This is something I cannot comprehend.
I can understand wanting children. Even though I am childfree, I do GET that. But 14!??? When you are single and live with your parents (who are going bankrupt) in a small 3 bedroom house!??
The thing that burns me up the most (and I wrote about this in my blog) is the fact that while doctors will implant as many embryos in a woman as she wants without limit and without questions, they will turn childfree people away who want to be sterilized. Nobody questions the insanity of having 14 children, and yet a person who thoughtfully makes the decision that having children is not something they wish to do, is prevented from exercising their reproductive rights.
This is ridiculous..
Ya, i already heard the news about this one.But, What kind of life will she give to her 14 children without apparent means of support.? Maybe she want to be a star even for a one day only..!
This woman is whacked and definitely has a full sense of her self. It’s a disgusting train wreck to be sure. The most pathetic part is that some media news outlets WILL want to interview her and pay her money.
IMO, if news outlets didn’t pay people money, I betcha a lot of this stupidity stops.
Oh, dunno if anyone here watches Keith Olberman, but I loved his rhetorical question. To paraphrase, is she trying to look like Angelina Jolie? LOL Aw hell, at least Angie can not only afford her own children (and others!) but made all of her money before having them. BEFORE having them. That’s key.
I swore that I wouldn’t give this woman any more time, but honestly. She is already getting food stamps from the state and disability insurance for her three oldest children who are disabled. The idea that she went ahead and had multiple embryos implanted when she already had disabled children from the same procedure, makes me want to scream. Those kids are nothing but a meal ticket for her. But, “it’s not welfare”. Okay, how is it not welfare?
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Lee beat me to it… I fail to see how SSI and food stamps aren’t “welfare”. It’s a government handout paid for by people who actually work.*
I’m OK with a woman having as many children as she wants – whether it’s one, or five, or ten, or none – provided she (and her spouse/partner) can pay for them herself. One line in the article really got me:
“NBC chief medical editor Dr. Nancy Snyderman has estimated the cost of delivering the infants and caring for them until they are healthy enough to leave the hospital at $1.5 million to $3 million.”
This woman is on welfare, hasn’t worked in ages, and has no apparent means of support besides the government. How was she expecting to pay for this? I rather doubt she has any medical insurance, so once again, we the taxpayers get to pick up the tab for irresponsible behaviour. And they call the childfree “selfish”…
This is insanity!
*I also have to add that I don’t see anything wrong with using these government programs when there is a real, legitimate need. Sh*t happens in life, even to people who have done their best to get by on their own. But I do not put this wingnut into that category.
Unless she continues to pop out more babies after this, I can’t imagine her getting any real long term money from it. It’s called “15 minutes of fame” – she’ll get some quick cash from whatever book deals or other proposals she signs on for, and then she’ll disappear into obscurity and will be left with lots and lots of bills to pay