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	<title>Comments on: Childfree &#8211; What&#8217;s Your Perspective on Settling For &#8220;Mr Good Enough?&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: og217</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2010/02/09/childfree-whats-your-perspective-on-settling-for-mr-good-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-18014</link>
		<dc:creator>og217</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the book&#039;s premise makes complete and total sense.  If you are 37 and want some perfect man - 6&#039;2 Clive Owen look-alike surgeon who spends his free time volunteering at a dog shelter and hiking - to come along and give you money, kids and a house, you need to wake up and start scrambling around for ANY man who will give you kids, and if he doesnt beat you and is employed - well then, super!  Women in their 30&#039;s who honestly think some millionaire supermodel is coming along any minute to sweep them off their feet and breed and are holding out for that guy are crazy and need to tone their expectations waaaay down - do you have wrinkles? starting to sag?  A bit world  weary and sun damaged?  Divorced? Have kids?  Yeah, guess what.  Rich, hot, successful guys are not coming to father your litter and if someone doesnt come along soon, you&#039;ll be adopting infants from Malawi a la Madonna.  Alone.  

That&#039;s just the way it is.  You had a short window of opportunity, if you were ever good looking to begin with, to reel in a gorgeous, successful man in his prime.  If you&#039;re 20 years out of high school, you missed it some years back.  So if you want kids, you have to quickly assess what is realistic for you.  And just like the guy you settle for, guess what, he is also settling.  He also never imagined he&#039;d be with some middle aged woman with grey hairs and cellulite.  But you want kids.  

How great is it to be child free!  Never have to settle.  Marry when you meet the right person, not &quot;before 30.&quot;   Yes, having unrealistic expectations is never going to work, so look in the mirror and see what you offer, then see if what you expect is reasonable.  But without the deadline due to breeding requirements, we can develop ourselves into the best version of us that we can be, at any age.  Then we can meet a person who cares for us and who we enjoy!  How sad to rush around like a game of musical chairs to land a man before the bio mommy music stops.  I am so glad I got married for the right reasons - to live and experience life with a person I love.  How sad for people who don&#039;t get that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the book&#8217;s premise makes complete and total sense.  If you are 37 and want some perfect man &#8211; 6&#8217;2 Clive Owen look-alike surgeon who spends his free time volunteering at a dog shelter and hiking &#8211; to come along and give you money, kids and a house, you need to wake up and start scrambling around for ANY man who will give you kids, and if he doesnt beat you and is employed &#8211; well then, super!  Women in their 30&#8242;s who honestly think some millionaire supermodel is coming along any minute to sweep them off their feet and breed and are holding out for that guy are crazy and need to tone their expectations waaaay down &#8211; do you have wrinkles? starting to sag?  A bit world  weary and sun damaged?  Divorced? Have kids?  Yeah, guess what.  Rich, hot, successful guys are not coming to father your litter and if someone doesnt come along soon, you&#8217;ll be adopting infants from Malawi a la Madonna.  Alone.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s just the way it is.  You had a short window of opportunity, if you were ever good looking to begin with, to reel in a gorgeous, successful man in his prime.  If you&#8217;re 20 years out of high school, you missed it some years back.  So if you want kids, you have to quickly assess what is realistic for you.  And just like the guy you settle for, guess what, he is also settling.  He also never imagined he&#8217;d be with some middle aged woman with grey hairs and cellulite.  But you want kids.  </p>
<p>How great is it to be child free!  Never have to settle.  Marry when you meet the right person, not &#8220;before 30.&#8221;   Yes, having unrealistic expectations is never going to work, so look in the mirror and see what you offer, then see if what you expect is reasonable.  But without the deadline due to breeding requirements, we can develop ourselves into the best version of us that we can be, at any age.  Then we can meet a person who cares for us and who we enjoy!  How sad to rush around like a game of musical chairs to land a man before the bio mommy music stops.  I am so glad I got married for the right reasons &#8211; to live and experience life with a person I love.  How sad for people who don&#8217;t get that.</p>
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		<title>By: Britgirl</title>
		<link>http://thebritgirl.com/2010/02/09/childfree-whats-your-perspective-on-settling-for-mr-good-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-17948</link>
		<dc:creator>Britgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In fact, the idea of being with the wrong person is a hell of a lot scarier than the idea of being single.&quot;
My thoughts exactly. 
I was always happy as a singleton and my experince now is that marriage has made life even more fun. I do remember feeling that when you&#039;re single EVERYONE seems to be coupled up or wanted to be coupled up. Now I&#039;m married I seem to meet more single people - and in many cases when they tell me what they are looking for in a man  -often ridiculous things - I think &quot;you are going to be waiting a long, long time&quot;) I think it&#039;s fine to have a goal to meet someone to share your life with if that&#039;s what a person wants  - but like you say, it should be a want not a need and I believe it has to come from a position of completeness.  Being needy is the way to send men running in the other direction.  Whereas there&#039;s something really attractive about people who are already comfortable with themselves.

I would didn&#039;t and would never settle... I think it does a disservice to both people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In fact, the idea of being with the wrong person is a hell of a lot scarier than the idea of being single.&#8221;<br />
My thoughts exactly.<br />
I was always happy as a singleton and my experince now is that marriage has made life even more fun. I do remember feeling that when you&#8217;re single EVERYONE seems to be coupled up or wanted to be coupled up. Now I&#8217;m married I seem to meet more single people &#8211; and in many cases when they tell me what they are looking for in a man  -often ridiculous things &#8211; I think &#8220;you are going to be waiting a long, long time&#8221;) I think it&#8217;s fine to have a goal to meet someone to share your life with if that&#8217;s what a person wants  &#8211; but like you say, it should be a want not a need and I believe it has to come from a position of completeness.  Being needy is the way to send men running in the other direction.  Whereas there&#8217;s something really attractive about people who are already comfortable with themselves.</p>
<p>I would didn&#8217;t and would never settle&#8230; I think it does a disservice to both people.</p>
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		<title>By: Margaret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate this idea that a woman&#039;s life is incomplete without marriage and babies. Seriously, it&#039;s so insulting. I am happily married, but I never felt like I HAD to be with a man to be happy. I think that we should be telling young women that they have the tools to make their own lives meaningful, and that relationships are a fantastic addition, but not a requirement, for happiness. I was happy as a single woman. I&#039;m happy as a married woman. I didn&#039;t settle at all. I was prepared for the possibility of being single for the rest of my life, especially after a string of dates with men who turned out to be desperate to procreate. I knew I didn&#039;t want kids, and if I couldn&#039;t find a man who shared that view, well, I was ok with that. Sure, I wanted to get married, but I never felt like I needed to. 
 In fact, the idea of being with the wrong person is a hell of a lot scarier than the idea of being single.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate this idea that a woman&#8217;s life is incomplete without marriage and babies. Seriously, it&#8217;s so insulting. I am happily married, but I never felt like I HAD to be with a man to be happy. I think that we should be telling young women that they have the tools to make their own lives meaningful, and that relationships are a fantastic addition, but not a requirement, for happiness. I was happy as a single woman. I&#8217;m happy as a married woman. I didn&#8217;t settle at all. I was prepared for the possibility of being single for the rest of my life, especially after a string of dates with men who turned out to be desperate to procreate. I knew I didn&#8217;t want kids, and if I couldn&#8217;t find a man who shared that view, well, I was ok with that. Sure, I wanted to get married, but I never felt like I needed to.<br />
 In fact, the idea of being with the wrong person is a hell of a lot scarier than the idea of being single.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiomela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiomela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 06:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As annoying as when the question &quot;when are you going to have kids?&quot; is the question &quot;When are you going to get married?&quot;

I want to get married, my partner doesn&#039;t really care either way. We&#039;ve been together the better part of a decade... one year shy actually. We&#039;ve lived together. We own a house together. We have a cat and a dog. 

But everyone implies that you have to get married, well, except for our families. 

Marriage is in the some day category and kids are some day after that. My niece just had a baby and that made me realize that I&#039;m not ready for kids. 

For now, I love my partner and we are completely happy with life as it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As annoying as when the question &#8220;when are you going to have kids?&#8221; is the question &#8220;When are you going to get married?&#8221;</p>
<p>I want to get married, my partner doesn&#8217;t really care either way. We&#8217;ve been together the better part of a decade&#8230; one year shy actually. We&#8217;ve lived together. We own a house together. We have a cat and a dog. </p>
<p>But everyone implies that you have to get married, well, except for our families. </p>
<p>Marriage is in the some day category and kids are some day after that. My niece just had a baby and that made me realize that I&#8217;m not ready for kids. </p>
<p>For now, I love my partner and we are completely happy with life as it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Vera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gottlieb&#039; s ideas are so stupid to begin with, they don&#039;t even have a connection with wanting children anymore. I&#039;m 22 and in a relationship with the same boy for 6 years. Yup, that&#039;s right, since I was 16. He was my best friend ever, and still is, and then my highschool sweetheart and now my lover. Although we had our shares of fights (inevitable when you&#039;re growing up) and saw other people, right now I can&#039;t even imagine being with someone else for ever.  Now I had a lot of friends telling me what a great guy he is, but that &quot;I could do more&quot; and that I&#039;m just settling with what I&#039;ve got. What&#039;s that supposed to mean? 
I think that in any relationship, common ground with common taste, fantasies and pleasures is the most basic thing to look for. It&#039;s all uphill from there. 

But not wanting men just to herd your kids. It&#039;s treating them like absolute crap. Like women were treated until a century ago. Geez.... Look for a friend, not a sperm donor!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gottlieb&#8217; s ideas are so stupid to begin with, they don&#8217;t even have a connection with wanting children anymore. I&#8217;m 22 and in a relationship with the same boy for 6 years. Yup, that&#8217;s right, since I was 16. He was my best friend ever, and still is, and then my highschool sweetheart and now my lover. Although we had our shares of fights (inevitable when you&#8217;re growing up) and saw other people, right now I can&#8217;t even imagine being with someone else for ever.  Now I had a lot of friends telling me what a great guy he is, but that &#8220;I could do more&#8221; and that I&#8217;m just settling with what I&#8217;ve got. What&#8217;s that supposed to mean?<br />
I think that in any relationship, common ground with common taste, fantasies and pleasures is the most basic thing to look for. It&#8217;s all uphill from there. </p>
<p>But not wanting men just to herd your kids. It&#8217;s treating them like absolute crap. Like women were treated until a century ago. Geez&#8230;. Look for a friend, not a sperm donor!</p>
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		<title>By: Flurry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flurry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...part of our general fear of death.&quot;  Spot on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;part of our general fear of death.&#8221;  Spot on.</p>
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		<title>By: Dogess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dogess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The amount of times I&#039;ve been told to settle for a man! Personally, I&#039;ve no interest in having a relationship. There is no rush for me after all. Secondly, I feel complete without another person in my life. If I ever met someone that I clicked with and actually wanted to spend the rest of my life with then so be it. However, I don&#039;t aspire to it and if I stay single then I&#039;m not going to be too concerned. 

I got told only last week that I should hurry up and find myself a man before it&#039;s too late for me. Apparently it becomes harder to find a partner the older you get but I&#039;m not one to go and chase after something just because I &quot;should&quot; and not because I genuinely want it. Not wanting children does not mean I need to settle fast and pop a few whilst I&#039;m still young.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The amount of times I&#8217;ve been told to settle for a man! Personally, I&#8217;ve no interest in having a relationship. There is no rush for me after all. Secondly, I feel complete without another person in my life. If I ever met someone that I clicked with and actually wanted to spend the rest of my life with then so be it. However, I don&#8217;t aspire to it and if I stay single then I&#8217;m not going to be too concerned. </p>
<p>I got told only last week that I should hurry up and find myself a man before it&#8217;s too late for me. Apparently it becomes harder to find a partner the older you get but I&#8217;m not one to go and chase after something just because I &#8220;should&#8221; and not because I genuinely want it. Not wanting children does not mean I need to settle fast and pop a few whilst I&#8217;m still young.</p>
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		<title>By: lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Specifically, let’s ask why is every relationship that ends considered a failure? Those who do not have the need to prepare a permanent nest to raise hatchlings in are still tied to the idea that the next love must be the last love. That no more may ever come. That you must sever contact with your exes in your rampant search for Your One instead of being comforted by your own journey and the people who move through it. It’s a poor way of looking at the world. I don’t think killing the Mr./Miss Right ideal means you must love less fully.&quot;

I love this paragraph and totally agree.

So far all of my relationships have ended but none have been a failure - they have all contributed hugely to my life and personality. I remain friends with all of my exes (excepting those 2-3 week flings that don&#039;t really count) and in fact most of my closest friends are ex boyfriends. They&#039;re lovely guys - that&#039;s why I dated them! They just weren&#039;t right for me *beyond a certain period of time*.

My last relationship still makes me smile when I think of it and to me that&#039;s a big success!

I think it&#039;s part of our general fear of death - whether it be death in the literal sense, or simply death in the sense of things ending and new things beginning. Why we are so afraid of something that is such an important ingredient of life is beyond me. It&#039;s like being afraid of darkness - yet imagine if there was no light: we&#039;d never sleep and we&#039;d all die of skin cancer!

In short, I&#039;m happy to spend some time alone, while also looking forward to the next &quot;one&quot;, knowing full well that he is only really one OF the ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Specifically, let’s ask why is every relationship that ends considered a failure? Those who do not have the need to prepare a permanent nest to raise hatchlings in are still tied to the idea that the next love must be the last love. That no more may ever come. That you must sever contact with your exes in your rampant search for Your One instead of being comforted by your own journey and the people who move through it. It’s a poor way of looking at the world. I don’t think killing the Mr./Miss Right ideal means you must love less fully.&#8221;</p>
<p>I love this paragraph and totally agree.</p>
<p>So far all of my relationships have ended but none have been a failure &#8211; they have all contributed hugely to my life and personality. I remain friends with all of my exes (excepting those 2-3 week flings that don&#8217;t really count) and in fact most of my closest friends are ex boyfriends. They&#8217;re lovely guys &#8211; that&#8217;s why I dated them! They just weren&#8217;t right for me *beyond a certain period of time*.</p>
<p>My last relationship still makes me smile when I think of it and to me that&#8217;s a big success!</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s part of our general fear of death &#8211; whether it be death in the literal sense, or simply death in the sense of things ending and new things beginning. Why we are so afraid of something that is such an important ingredient of life is beyond me. It&#8217;s like being afraid of darkness &#8211; yet imagine if there was no light: we&#8217;d never sleep and we&#8217;d all die of skin cancer!</p>
<p>In short, I&#8217;m happy to spend some time alone, while also looking forward to the next &#8220;one&#8221;, knowing full well that he is only really one OF the ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lori is the kind of woman I&#039;d have a tendency to avoid.  She just seems to be replacing one set of preconditions in looking for &quot;Mr. Right&quot; with one where the man will give her a child nonetheless.  I mean, they&#039;re virtually the same precondition!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lori is the kind of woman I&#8217;d have a tendency to avoid.  She just seems to be replacing one set of preconditions in looking for &#8220;Mr. Right&#8221; with one where the man will give her a child nonetheless.  I mean, they&#8217;re virtually the same precondition!</p>
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		<title>By: Flurry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flurry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 22:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is my first post here, so sorry to be jumping in with opinions blazing. I really like the perspectives and thoughtful comments here.  

But I don&#039;t think this article deserves the hostility it&#039;s getting. It&#039;s simply not directed at the Childfree. 

Sure, there are the odd presumptions like, &quot;And all I can say is, if you say you’re not worried, either you’re in denial or you’re lying.&quot; But even that isn&#039;t so ridiculous. 

I&#039;m a 38 year old childfree male. Finally got a vasectomy last year as a single guy, and though I am confident it was the right choice, sure I worry.  A good friend told me something before I got it done. &quot;Yeah, you will regret it from time to time,&quot; she said, &quot;don&#039;t let that freak you out. Don&#039;t panic. It doesn&#039;t mean it was the wrong choice.&quot; I arrived at my childfree status slowly over the course of my 20s and early 30s, and many hard knocks contributed to my developing assurance of my feelings. I&#039;ve let more than a couple of good relationships go over the kids issue, and I sometimes find that sad. Some of my friends have pretty cool kids and there&#039;s always that romantic idea of the bustling family filling your life blocking out the loneliness. Then I remember, &quot;waitaminnit! I hate bustle. I can&#039;t stand endless demands on my time, I like solitude and slack time and quiet and even loneliness, whose best cure really is a hobby and not other people anyway.&quot;

People need to have a realistic and tempered idea of what marriage and kids really is before they can hope to develop a solid opinion about whether it is for them or not. Among my friends who have children, which is most of them now, I am very much impressed by those who are willing to give it to you straight and tell you how tough it is, sometimes how if they had it to do over again, they would have made different choices. Those who aren&#039;t afraid to reduce it to &quot;running a boring non-profit.&quot; My own father told me he would not have had kids. I think it&#039;s a very different thing than saying he regrets it. And I do believe her advice is good for any kids that actually do result. Kids don&#039;t care about the passion of their parents, they want a stable home life and no custody battles.

Whatever Ms. Gottlieb is guilty of, it is a far less serious offense than those of her poor deluded audience who have swallowed the fairytale bullshit of Mr. Right and Mr. Right&#039;s oh so right sperm.

I actually believe the childfree have a different opportunity, which they are ignoring with their own romantic ideals of Mr./Miss Right. Specifically, let&#039;s ask why is every relationship that ends considered a failure? Those who do not have the need to prepare a permanent nest to raise hatchlings in are still tied to the idea that the next love must be the last love. That no more may ever come. That you must sever contact with your exes in your rampant search for Your One instead of being comforted by your own journey and the people who move through it. It&#039;s a poor way of looking at the world. I don&#039;t think killing the Mr./Miss Right ideal means you must love less fully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my first post here, so sorry to be jumping in with opinions blazing. I really like the perspectives and thoughtful comments here.  </p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t think this article deserves the hostility it&#8217;s getting. It&#8217;s simply not directed at the Childfree. </p>
<p>Sure, there are the odd presumptions like, &#8220;And all I can say is, if you say you’re not worried, either you’re in denial or you’re lying.&#8221; But even that isn&#8217;t so ridiculous. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a 38 year old childfree male. Finally got a vasectomy last year as a single guy, and though I am confident it was the right choice, sure I worry.  A good friend told me something before I got it done. &#8220;Yeah, you will regret it from time to time,&#8221; she said, &#8220;don&#8217;t let that freak you out. Don&#8217;t panic. It doesn&#8217;t mean it was the wrong choice.&#8221; I arrived at my childfree status slowly over the course of my 20s and early 30s, and many hard knocks contributed to my developing assurance of my feelings. I&#8217;ve let more than a couple of good relationships go over the kids issue, and I sometimes find that sad. Some of my friends have pretty cool kids and there&#8217;s always that romantic idea of the bustling family filling your life blocking out the loneliness. Then I remember, &#8220;waitaminnit! I hate bustle. I can&#8217;t stand endless demands on my time, I like solitude and slack time and quiet and even loneliness, whose best cure really is a hobby and not other people anyway.&#8221;</p>
<p>People need to have a realistic and tempered idea of what marriage and kids really is before they can hope to develop a solid opinion about whether it is for them or not. Among my friends who have children, which is most of them now, I am very much impressed by those who are willing to give it to you straight and tell you how tough it is, sometimes how if they had it to do over again, they would have made different choices. Those who aren&#8217;t afraid to reduce it to &#8220;running a boring non-profit.&#8221; My own father told me he would not have had kids. I think it&#8217;s a very different thing than saying he regrets it. And I do believe her advice is good for any kids that actually do result. Kids don&#8217;t care about the passion of their parents, they want a stable home life and no custody battles.</p>
<p>Whatever Ms. Gottlieb is guilty of, it is a far less serious offense than those of her poor deluded audience who have swallowed the fairytale bullshit of Mr. Right and Mr. Right&#8217;s oh so right sperm.</p>
<p>I actually believe the childfree have a different opportunity, which they are ignoring with their own romantic ideals of Mr./Miss Right. Specifically, let&#8217;s ask why is every relationship that ends considered a failure? Those who do not have the need to prepare a permanent nest to raise hatchlings in are still tied to the idea that the next love must be the last love. That no more may ever come. That you must sever contact with your exes in your rampant search for Your One instead of being comforted by your own journey and the people who move through it. It&#8217;s a poor way of looking at the world. I don&#8217;t think killing the Mr./Miss Right ideal means you must love less fully.</p>
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		<title>By: Mia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 12:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a movie there was this line: &quot;There is no Mr Right, there&#039;s only Mr Right Here&quot;, which I find to be very true. And if there&#039;s no Mr Right Here, then we shouldn&#039;t be afraid to &quot;be alone&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a movie there was this line: &#8220;There is no Mr Right, there&#8217;s only Mr Right Here&#8221;, which I find to be very true. And if there&#8217;s no Mr Right Here, then we shouldn&#8217;t be afraid to &#8220;be alone&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Hillari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hillari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 05:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read that article a couple of weeks ago, and I thought, &quot;She&#039;s crazy as hell.&quot;  Women have a lot more to lose if they just settle so they can say they have a man.  I&#039;ve seen too many women -- including my mother -- struggle and struggle to get over the damage that a Mr. Wrong had done.  Some never recover.  

Getting a Mr. Good Enough is not only a poor antidote to solve loneliness, but it is also a conforming to others&#039; ideas of social standards.  I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if a lot of women got married to fit in and supposedly be acceptable.  Then the women are miserable by the sub-standard husband and annoying kids that may follow.  It&#039;s better to be alone than miserable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read that article a couple of weeks ago, and I thought, &#8220;She&#8217;s crazy as hell.&#8221;  Women have a lot more to lose if they just settle so they can say they have a man.  I&#8217;ve seen too many women &#8212; including my mother &#8212; struggle and struggle to get over the damage that a Mr. Wrong had done.  Some never recover.  </p>
<p>Getting a Mr. Good Enough is not only a poor antidote to solve loneliness, but it is also a conforming to others&#8217; ideas of social standards.  I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if a lot of women got married to fit in and supposedly be acceptable.  Then the women are miserable by the sub-standard husband and annoying kids that may follow.  It&#8217;s better to be alone than miserable.</p>
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		<title>By: childfreekey</title>
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		<dc:creator>childfreekey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 22:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just did an article on my blog about women who are obsessed with marriage and kids by a certain date. I saw a letter in The Sun from some bitch who was complaining that her boyfriend&#039;s charity work wage wasn&#039;t enough because she wants to be a SAHM one day. I had to blog about it, it was just too tragic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just did an article on my blog about women who are obsessed with marriage and kids by a certain date. I saw a letter in The Sun from some bitch who was complaining that her boyfriend&#8217;s charity work wage wasn&#8217;t enough because she wants to be a SAHM one day. I had to blog about it, it was just too tragic.</p>
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		<title>By: nerd</title>
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		<dc:creator>nerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 01:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading the above comments, I am so glad that my own grandmother i supportive of me and my choices in life. She grew up at a time when a woman was expected to get married asap, pop out a few sprogs and put up with whatever hubby said and did. In her case she was married with kids by the time she was 18. Unfortunately her husband abused her, beat her up, and had another 3 kids with other women while he was married to her. So, against convention at the time she divorced him. She married again to a bloke who also thought it was acceptable to use her as a punchbag, and divorved again. Once she was &quot;free&quot;, living in poverty she decided to live the life she wanted, and became the first woman elected to lcoal government in the area she lived, she never dated again! She is old now yes, and has been single for decades but she says she was never happier than when she was single. One thing she always told me is NEVER &quot;settle&quot;, think more highly of yourself and pursue what you want to do. Obviously I dont want to have kids, despite pressure from the other side of my family (the crazy religous ethnic side) and I am glad that I had an alternative viewpoint to tell me that I didnt have to just marry and settle down. 
My best friend is only 26, yet she is already panicking about finding a bloke to have kids with. she wonders why she isnt getting dates, but even I can smell the desperation at times - she wants a sperm donor with a bit of cash and what bloke would want that, really?
Interestingly, an older female friend tells me that post menopause dating is very different to pre-menopause dating and far more relaxed because both parties know they are seeking a relationship and not an incubator/sperm donor. And this from a woman who has got kids!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading the above comments, I am so glad that my own grandmother i supportive of me and my choices in life. She grew up at a time when a woman was expected to get married asap, pop out a few sprogs and put up with whatever hubby said and did. In her case she was married with kids by the time she was 18. Unfortunately her husband abused her, beat her up, and had another 3 kids with other women while he was married to her. So, against convention at the time she divorced him. She married again to a bloke who also thought it was acceptable to use her as a punchbag, and divorved again. Once she was &#8220;free&#8221;, living in poverty she decided to live the life she wanted, and became the first woman elected to lcoal government in the area she lived, she never dated again! She is old now yes, and has been single for decades but she says she was never happier than when she was single. One thing she always told me is NEVER &#8220;settle&#8221;, think more highly of yourself and pursue what you want to do. Obviously I dont want to have kids, despite pressure from the other side of my family (the crazy religous ethnic side) and I am glad that I had an alternative viewpoint to tell me that I didnt have to just marry and settle down.<br />
My best friend is only 26, yet she is already panicking about finding a bloke to have kids with. she wonders why she isnt getting dates, but even I can smell the desperation at times &#8211; she wants a sperm donor with a bit of cash and what bloke would want that, really?<br />
Interestingly, an older female friend tells me that post menopause dating is very different to pre-menopause dating and far more relaxed because both parties know they are seeking a relationship and not an incubator/sperm donor. And this from a woman who has got kids!</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just amazed at what a low opinion of men Gottlieb has. She talks about relationships as if she a were a lawyer negotiating a corporate merger--&quot;infrastructure in place to have a family&quot;?  Huh?  I guess it doesn&#039;t occur to her that men also have feelings about their relationships and want to feel cherished and valued as human beings not just serve as life facilitators for women who are indifferent to their needs. This woman doesn&#039;t want a partner, she wants a daddy!  

As was mentioned before, she must believe that any man she would settle for would be grateful to have her so would go along with her little scheme. This helps to explain why she&#039;s alone--she doesn&#039;t understand men very well at all.  Her idea of an ideal couple is Will and Grace--need I say more?  

And in her infinite wisdom, she fails to realize that in recommending that women settle so that they can set up a family infrastructure--children can sense when one parent does not respect the other because the disrespected parent projects that they are UNHAPPY. Duh!   What does she think that the poor slob will be ecstatic with a peck on the cheek from her after he unclogs her drain (so to speak)?  Great lesson to teach your kids about relationships--&quot;it&#039;s okay to use somebody to get your needs met honey, that&#039;s why I married your father--you know that guy who pays all our bills and serves as our doormat.&quot;   

Can we expect her next book to cover the topic of higher divorce rates amongst those who settle?  Gross, gross, GROSS!  Send this title to the remainder shelf, please!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just amazed at what a low opinion of men Gottlieb has. She talks about relationships as if she a were a lawyer negotiating a corporate merger&#8211;&#8221;infrastructure in place to have a family&#8221;?  Huh?  I guess it doesn&#8217;t occur to her that men also have feelings about their relationships and want to feel cherished and valued as human beings not just serve as life facilitators for women who are indifferent to their needs. This woman doesn&#8217;t want a partner, she wants a daddy!  </p>
<p>As was mentioned before, she must believe that any man she would settle for would be grateful to have her so would go along with her little scheme. This helps to explain why she&#8217;s alone&#8211;she doesn&#8217;t understand men very well at all.  Her idea of an ideal couple is Will and Grace&#8211;need I say more?  </p>
<p>And in her infinite wisdom, she fails to realize that in recommending that women settle so that they can set up a family infrastructure&#8211;children can sense when one parent does not respect the other because the disrespected parent projects that they are UNHAPPY. Duh!   What does she think that the poor slob will be ecstatic with a peck on the cheek from her after he unclogs her drain (so to speak)?  Great lesson to teach your kids about relationships&#8211;&#8221;it&#8217;s okay to use somebody to get your needs met honey, that&#8217;s why I married your father&#8211;you know that guy who pays all our bills and serves as our doormat.&#8221;   </p>
<p>Can we expect her next book to cover the topic of higher divorce rates amongst those who settle?  Gross, gross, GROSS!  Send this title to the remainder shelf, please!</p>
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		<dc:creator>Lurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a rant..

“My advice is this: Settle! That’s right. Don’t worry about passion or intense connection. Don’t nix a guy based on his annoying habit of yelling “Bravo!” in movie theaters. Overlook his halitosis or abysmal sense of aesthetics. Because if you want to have the infrastructure in place to have a family, settling is the way to go. Based on my observations, in fact, settling will probably make you happier in the long run, since many of those who marry with great expectations become more disillusioned with each passing year.”

 Is this a speech from HELL?? This is exactly WHY I got my vasectomy!!...</description>
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<p>“My advice is this: Settle! That’s right. Don’t worry about passion or intense connection. Don’t nix a guy based on his annoying habit of yelling “Bravo!” in movie theaters. Overlook his halitosis or abysmal sense of aesthetics. Because if you want to have the infrastructure in place to have a family, settling is the way to go. Based on my observations, in fact, settling will probably make you happier in the long run, since many of those who marry with great expectations become more disillusioned with each passing year.”</p>
<p> Is this a speech from HELL?? This is exactly WHY I got my vasectomy!!&#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator>Things I Find Annoying &#171; Mint Leaf Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] came across this gem of a comment at one of the blogs I read, Like It Is.  The quotes are from a longer article written by Lori Gottlieb.  Oh, and surprise, surprise, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] came across this gem of a comment at one of the blogs I read, Like It Is.  The quotes are from a longer article written by Lori Gottlieb.  Oh, and surprise, surprise, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I wish someone could write a book about people who are actually satisfied with their lives: Despite what Ms. Gottleib may think, there REALLY are people out there who are satisfied being single, just like there are REALLY people out there who never regret their decision not to have children. Also, the way she depicted marriage in the article sounded terrible too. I’ve never been married so I can’t speak on it, but for those of you who have, is it really as mundane and sexless and like a “partnership running a boring non-profit business”, as she describes it?&quot;

I&#039;ve been married, and right now I&#039;m happy being single. I walked away from the cheating husband, and then from the boyfriend who caught baby rabies, and recently from the guy who thought I should be his long distance bit on the side without his girlfriend knowing. I&#039;m holding out for that special person who will adore me as much as I adore him. I do have a few requirements (and let&#039;s be honest, we all have at least a few) - but some of the &#039;lists&#039; these women have are retarded. I had a friend like that, who turned down every decent guy she met because there was something that didn&#039;t meet her mile-long list of attributes. Thankfully, she grew up and wised up and is now happily married. See, it&#039;s not that hard!

I absolutely agree that self worth and happiness comes from within, and nothing external can fill the void. I don&#039;t believe you should settle in anything. Live your life for you. Do the things that inspire you. Hang with people you love whether they be family or not. Chase your dreams. If you meet someone to share that with, that&#039;s awesome. if kids are part of your dreams, that&#039;s awesome too. But this shallow life script stuff - ugh. I hope &#039;it&#039;s all worth it&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I wish someone could write a book about people who are actually satisfied with their lives: Despite what Ms. Gottleib may think, there REALLY are people out there who are satisfied being single, just like there are REALLY people out there who never regret their decision not to have children. Also, the way she depicted marriage in the article sounded terrible too. I’ve never been married so I can’t speak on it, but for those of you who have, is it really as mundane and sexless and like a “partnership running a boring non-profit business”, as she describes it?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been married, and right now I&#8217;m happy being single. I walked away from the cheating husband, and then from the boyfriend who caught baby rabies, and recently from the guy who thought I should be his long distance bit on the side without his girlfriend knowing. I&#8217;m holding out for that special person who will adore me as much as I adore him. I do have a few requirements (and let&#8217;s be honest, we all have at least a few) &#8211; but some of the &#8216;lists&#8217; these women have are retarded. I had a friend like that, who turned down every decent guy she met because there was something that didn&#8217;t meet her mile-long list of attributes. Thankfully, she grew up and wised up and is now happily married. See, it&#8217;s not that hard!</p>
<p>I absolutely agree that self worth and happiness comes from within, and nothing external can fill the void. I don&#8217;t believe you should settle in anything. Live your life for you. Do the things that inspire you. Hang with people you love whether they be family or not. Chase your dreams. If you meet someone to share that with, that&#8217;s awesome. if kids are part of your dreams, that&#8217;s awesome too. But this shallow life script stuff &#8211; ugh. I hope &#8216;it&#8217;s all worth it&#8217;.</p>
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		<dc:creator>CfManThink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Delighted with the perspectives and so happy I shared the link with Brit Girl.  I read the book cover to cover and did find some relevant nuggets.  Gottlieb talks about the dating market and one&#039;s value in a way that resonates for this businessman.  Also, she makes a fair distinction that the best date material isn&#039;t necessarily the best for marriage.

I agree with many of the above critiques.  And in particular, I feel she portrays men as a means to an end.  Many of my  single male friends are concerned that we are desired strictly for the sperm and the wallet.  This book will add much fuel to that fire.

Thanks Brit Girl for this valuable site and bringing this wonderful group together!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Delighted with the perspectives and so happy I shared the link with Brit Girl.  I read the book cover to cover and did find some relevant nuggets.  Gottlieb talks about the dating market and one&#8217;s value in a way that resonates for this businessman.  Also, she makes a fair distinction that the best date material isn&#8217;t necessarily the best for marriage.</p>
<p>I agree with many of the above critiques.  And in particular, I feel she portrays men as a means to an end.  Many of my  single male friends are concerned that we are desired strictly for the sperm and the wallet.  This book will add much fuel to that fire.</p>
<p>Thanks Brit Girl for this valuable site and bringing this wonderful group together!</p>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, yest BG, they are Harlequin Romances in the U.S., also known as &quot;bodice rippers&quot;.  Good work if you can get it. ;)</description>
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